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Seat Map: https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/aircraft/conf/351.html

Rollout Schedule:

HND-JFK (JL5/6)
- Every other day from 2024-01-24
- Daily from 2024-02-01

HND-DFW (JL11/12)
- Every other day from 2024-04-17, except between 2024-07-01 and 2024-07-25.
- Daily from 2024-08-15

HND-JFK (JL3/4)
- JL4 Daily from 2024-07-01, except on July 3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24.
- JL3 Daily from 2024-07-02, except on July 4,7,10,13,16,19,22,25

HND-LHR (JL43/44)
- FY2024

A350 Production Status
By the end of FY2024, JAL expects to operate a total of 8 A350-1000’s
JAL expects to introduce 11 A350-1000’s by FY2025

Delivered
JA01WJ https://aviation.flights/aib/A350/610
JA02WJ https://aviation.flights/aib/A350/628
JA03WJ https://aviation.flights/aib/A350/635

In Production
JA04WJ https://aviation.flights/aib/A350/662

MSN670 https://aviation.flights/aib/A350/670
MSN676 https://aviation.flights/aib/A350/676
MSN679 https://aviation.flights/aib/A350/679
MSN683 https://aviation.flights/aib/A350/683

JAL announces summer 2023 international plans, A350-1000 on HND-JFK, new intl cabin

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Jan 19, 2024, 5:14 pm

#691

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They don't always go for the longest route. Aircraft rotation is another consideration. Just look at how JL11/12 gets A35K before JL3/4. You should keep an eye on No. 4 and No. 5 deliveries.

Shall we start guessing on the next routes?

Jan 19, 2024, 5:16 pm

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Shall we start guessing on the next routes?

It all depends on whether No. 4 and No. 5 are delivered together.

Jan 19, 2024, 5:34 pm

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It all depends on whether No. 4 and No. 5 are delivered together.

And when Airbus gets around to completing them. 662 and 670 which are the line numbers for number 4 and 5 have not even been spotted in primer yet. 662 has been assigned a French registration F-WZND, so it is probably not that far from being finished enough to be spotted in primer 670 does not have a registration yet.

Number 3, line number 635 registration F-WDWW still does not seem to have engines mounted.

Jan 19, 2024, 5:59 pm

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They can take as much time as they need for No. 3 onwards. There's no pressure to launch the new flagship products anymore so JAL doesn't have to accept the delivery despite knowing there are cabin issues. The current SS and JAL Suite are just fine for my need. I wouldn't be too upset even if I am not able to fly the new products any time soon.

Jan 20, 2024, 2:23 pm

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Here’s a tour of the cabin. Bulkhead of PY has plenty of legroom. Doesn’t look like it’s easy to take out the F dining table and once it’s out can you easily leave your seat? They only show footwell of 3K, which is misleading as that’s not the standard footwell of other seats.

Jan 20, 2024, 2:29 pm

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I guess the bulkhead J seats have larger footwells then? Also, a little jarring that the F seats look the cushions are misaligned all over the place.

Jan 20, 2024, 2:43 pm

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I guess the bulkhead J seats have larger footwells then? Also, a little jarring that the F seats look the cushions are misaligned all over the place.

Not all bulkhead seats have the same footwell.

Jan 20, 2024, 3:05 pm

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Doesn’t look like it’s easy to take out the F dining table and once it’s out can you easily leave your seat?

Perhaps JAL should have purchased the voice activated robotic crane option for first class dining table manipulation?

Just joking :-) When I take my flight in October, will just let the professionals (i.e., crew) set up the dinner. As for the exit for the bathroom...hmmmm remains to be seen? Crawl under the table?

Cheers,

-Cyborg

p.s., I have experience (row 84?) climbing over the storage bins and squeeking by between the console and the wall on United upper deck 747 back in the day ;-)

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Jan 20, 2024, 3:24 pm

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Believe they could have designed it much better. At least based on the renderings, QF seems to have a better customization/design in both F and J. Maybe JAL’s F table is more sturdy?

Jan 20, 2024, 4:17 pm

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Can't say I dig the color scheme or general aesthetic. NH seems to still have a leg up there, but do look forward to trying this out this fall.

Jan 20, 2024, 6:19 pm

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Can't say I dig the color scheme or general aesthetic. NH seems to still have a leg up there, but do look forward to trying this out this fall.

Yup, I don’t like that either but there seems to be a few usability problems with the design as well. IMHO they put too much focus on having a big screen and big bed.

Jan 20, 2024, 6:26 pm

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Believe they could have designed it much better. At least based on the renderings, QF seems to have a better customization/design in both F and J. Maybe JAL’s F table is more sturdy?

The renderings for QF certainly look better, there could be a worry that the very light colour scheme in F will be difficult to keep looking clean....

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Jan 20, 2024, 6:28 pm

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Yes I like NH's dark colors for multiple reasons. The current JL F has too much white/cream for my taste - makes the cabin too bright and does get scratched/marked up easily.

Jan 22, 2024, 8:17 am

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The PE looks like a dream for me.
I look forward to this between Europe and Tokyo, whenever on earth that'll be.

Jan 22, 2024, 8:21 am

#705

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I cheaped out and did not book the one way JL5 (thought it was pretty cheap YYZ->JFK->HND was $3500 CAD). GoingYYZ->YVR then flying 3rd ZIPAIR YVR flight from YVR-NRT instead, for about less than 1/2 of the price, and way less than 50% of the service compare to JAL. Will definitely try this next time around, and hope more routes will get this new cabin.