JAL - Hot Cabin
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My Japanese friend told me that Japanese people love hot aircraft cabins. As a Japanese airline I guess they have to cater to the customer they mostly carry. Though I still don't know why they can't compromise at like 70 degrees and Japanese people can put on sweaters? We can't go naked...
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Overheating by western standards is common in Japan. Shops, restaurants, offices, trains and aircraft are often a lot warmer than some of us non-Japanese find comfortable. I stayed in a Narita Airport hotel this week and the room was way too hot and there was no heating or air conditioning control to allow me to lower the temperature. The window would open only a minute crack so it was a long and uncomfortable night.
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Great flight last month...aside from the heat.
Unfortunately I was stuck in a middle seat on my JL flight home- and I was warm the whole time. Slept for an hour or so (didn't want to miss out too much of the service) and I woke up in a pool.
Intend to send JL a note (despite it probably not doing anything)
Unfortunately I was stuck in a middle seat on my JL flight home- and I was warm the whole time. Slept for an hour or so (didn't want to miss out too much of the service) and I woke up in a pool.
Intend to send JL a note (despite it probably not doing anything)
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I flew in Business class on both JL and NH in the last 2 weeks (ORD-NRT-ORD). Both were a bit warm but manageable.
Since I prefer it cooler, I intentionally wore a thin short sleeve shirt. No blanket was ever needed for me.
Since I prefer it cooler, I intentionally wore a thin short sleeve shirt. No blanket was ever needed for me.
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Just curious - does the hot cabins also happen on CX and OZ?
I've only been on JL short haul - and those cabins were quite toasty.
I've only been on JL short haul - and those cabins were quite toasty.
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OZ: Yes, but not to the same extent. They keep the cabin at about 2-4c cooler than JL (depending on cabin) - and are willing to lower temp if they get complaints. This appears never to be the case with JL, according to other posters.
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CX: No. Used a blanket on HKG-DUS in J on Saturday (and i sweat through an entire t-shirt on JL)
OZ: Yes, but not to the same extent. They keep the cabin at about 2-4c cooler than JL (depending on cabin) - and are willing to lower temp if they get complaints. This appears never to be the case with JL, according to other posters.
OZ: Yes, but not to the same extent. They keep the cabin at about 2-4c cooler than JL (depending on cabin) - and are willing to lower temp if they get complaints. This appears never to be the case with JL, according to other posters.
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This is anecdotal but I nearly always find CX cabin temperatures to be too low. I usually ask for two blankets. SQ get it about right, at least for my taste.
As I mentioned before, for real numbers you can search Twitter for #JL or #OZ #cabintemp for temperature and humidity.
I personally never feel hot on JL flights but I did today on the HND-Shibuya airport limo bus. Measured 26.7C and 37% humidity (it was raining to be fair).
As I mentioned before, for real numbers you can search Twitter for #JL or #OZ #cabintemp for temperature and humidity.
I personally never feel hot on JL flights but I did today on the HND-Shibuya airport limo bus. Measured 26.7C and 37% humidity (it was raining to be fair).
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I'm on the HND-SFO siting in F and the temperature is perfect (just a little too cold, so those sleeping with blankets don't overheat).
The F lounge was miserably hot though (and pretty sub-par in general compared to SQ, EY)
The F lounge was miserably hot though (and pretty sub-par in general compared to SQ, EY)
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Overheating by western standards is common in Japan. Shops, restaurants, offices, trains and aircraft are often a lot warmer than some of us non-Japanese find comfortable. I stayed in a Narita Airport hotel this week and the room was way too hot and there was no heating or air conditioning control to allow me to lower the temperature. The window would open only a minute crack so it was a long and uncomfortable night.
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I think that the notion of 'Western' is somewhat complex too. Many Europeans find US air conditioning habits bewildering and room temperatures across the pond freezing. Beyond individual variations, I think that there is a big clash of preferences between average US and average Japanese temperature norms. Most Europeans fit somewhere in between. I tend to prefer slightly cooler with a bit more of a duvet but on JL, duvets tend to be very thin and I have more than occasionally needed to ask for a second one.
On a plane, that's more difficult, but I liked that AA had fairly cool air coming out of the vents. It was there if you wanted it, but otherwise comfortable. A blanket or sweater would have kept the warmer crowd happy.
I dunno - just seems there's a lot more to do to make one warm than to try to cool down. YMMV.
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Similarly, I thought it was crazy when I went to the UK and found out that the hotel didn't have AC but in the common areas. Just had a fan. It wasn't bad as it was still late spring, but had it been summer I would have found a different hotel. I don't get what's hard about having a thermostat and allowing the guest to adjust it to their individual comfort level.
On a plane, that's more difficult, but I liked that AA had fairly cool air coming out of the vents. It was there if you wanted it, but otherwise comfortable. A blanket or sweater would have kept the warmer crowd happy.
I dunno - just seems there's a lot more to do to make one warm than to try to cool down. YMMV.
On a plane, that's more difficult, but I liked that AA had fairly cool air coming out of the vents. It was there if you wanted it, but otherwise comfortable. A blanket or sweater would have kept the warmer crowd happy.
I dunno - just seems there's a lot more to do to make one warm than to try to cool down. YMMV.