Hyatt Q1.5 2018 promotion Morepoints
Feb 15, 2018, 12:47 pm
#31
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
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I do read the T&Cs.
And I quote:
"An “Eligible Rate” is defined as any hotel or resort room rate published by Hyatt (including rates found on hyatt.com without the application of a discount code, and Hyatt’s “Standard Rate,” “Volume Account Rates,” “Senior Citizen Rate,” and the monetary portion of any Points + Cash Award (as defined in Appendix B)) or, for Miraval properties, published by Miraval. A portion of an Eligible Rate may reflect taxes, service charges, gratuities, and third-party charges for certain included items, and those costs may not be eligible for points. “Ineligible Rates” are all rates other than Eligible Rates and include Free Night Awards (as defined in Appendix B), ), complimentary nights awarded in connection with Miraval’s Authentic Circle program, rooms booked on third-party online retailers (such as Expedia.com, Travelocity.com, Hotels.com, Booking.com, Priceline.com, Tripadvisor.com, Inspirato.com, or any other third-party online/mobile travel portal or bookings made directly on Google.com and TripAdvisor Instant Book), traditional wholesale rates (examples include, without limitation, GOGO Worldwide Vacations, Pleasant Holidays, Tourico, and Hotelbeds), airline crew rates, airline employee rates, travel agency employee rates, media rates, Club at the Hyatt discount stays, Hyatt employee or employee family or friends-and-family discount rates, airline interrupted-trip vouchers, or contracted rooms. (A “contracted room” is a room that has been reserved pursuant to a written and executed agreement between a hotel or resort and a corporation, government agency, or individual for a negotiated room rate in exchange for an agreed upon number of rooms to be rented for an extended period of time.) "
And I quote:
"An “Eligible Rate” is defined as any hotel or resort room rate published by Hyatt (including rates found on hyatt.com without the application of a discount code, and Hyatt’s “Standard Rate,” “Volume Account Rates,” “Senior Citizen Rate,” and the monetary portion of any Points + Cash Award (as defined in Appendix B)) or, for Miraval properties, published by Miraval. A portion of an Eligible Rate may reflect taxes, service charges, gratuities, and third-party charges for certain included items, and those costs may not be eligible for points. “Ineligible Rates” are all rates other than Eligible Rates and include Free Night Awards (as defined in Appendix B), ), complimentary nights awarded in connection with Miraval’s Authentic Circle program, rooms booked on third-party online retailers (such as Expedia.com, Travelocity.com, Hotels.com, Booking.com, Priceline.com, Tripadvisor.com, Inspirato.com, or any other third-party online/mobile travel portal or bookings made directly on Google.com and TripAdvisor Instant Book), traditional wholesale rates (examples include, without limitation, GOGO Worldwide Vacations, Pleasant Holidays, Tourico, and Hotelbeds), airline crew rates, airline employee rates, travel agency employee rates, media rates, Club at the Hyatt discount stays, Hyatt employee or employee family or friends-and-family discount rates, airline interrupted-trip vouchers, or contracted rooms. (A “contracted room” is a room that has been reserved pursuant to a written and executed agreement between a hotel or resort and a corporation, government agency, or individual for a negotiated room rate in exchange for an agreed upon number of rooms to be rented for an extended period of time.) "
Feb 15, 2018, 12:50 pm
#32
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Feb 15, 2018, 1:01 pm
#33
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, SPG Plat, UA GS
Posts: 238
Alternatively, promotions could be a way to make sure you are not losing business. I received a SPG targeted promotion that would have been 2K extra points per stay that was going to impact my stay pattern this quarter. With this promotion, I will not need to do so.
Feb 15, 2018, 1:04 pm
#34
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: DTW
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titainum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum, Delta Diamond
Posts: 142
Isn't it clear? This promotion proves, beyond a doubt that WoH is going under and that Hyatt is circling the drain. This promo, along with their logo, are what is wrong with this world, why can't things be like they used to be, I loved the past, it was so reassuring and looking back, provided me with so much certainty. I will reluctantly register for this promotion from my suite upgrade at the HR Toronto, but I don't have to like it. I'm seriously thinking of taking all my business to another chain where loyalty isn't defined by how much you stay, but how much you spend.
Feb 15, 2018, 1:55 pm
#36
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: IAH
Programs: UA 2MM, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Gold
Posts: 2,164
I do read the T&Cs.
And I quote:
"An “Eligible Rate” is defined as any hotel or resort room rate published by Hyatt (including rates found on hyatt.com without the application of a discount code, and Hyatt’s “Standard Rate,” “Volume Account Rates,” “Senior Citizen Rate,” and the monetary portion of any Points + Cash Award (as defined in Appendix B)) or, for Miraval properties, published by Miraval. A portion of an Eligible Rate may reflect taxes, service charges, gratuities, and third-party charges for certain included items, and those costs may not be eligible for points. “Ineligible Rates” are all rates other than Eligible Rates and include Free Night Awards (as defined in Appendix B), ), complimentary nights awarded in connection with Miraval’s Authentic Circle program, rooms booked on third-party online retailers (such as Expedia.com, Travelocity.com, Hotels.com, Booking.com, Priceline.com, Tripadvisor.com, Inspirato.com, or any other third-party online/mobile travel portal or bookings made directly on Google.com and TripAdvisor Instant Book), traditional wholesale rates (examples include, without limitation, GOGO Worldwide Vacations, Pleasant Holidays, Tourico, and Hotelbeds), airline crew rates, airline employee rates, travel agency employee rates, media rates, Club at the Hyatt discount stays, Hyatt employee or employee family or friends-and-family discount rates, airline interrupted-trip vouchers, or contracted rooms. (A “contracted room” is a room that has been reserved pursuant to a written and executed agreement between a hotel or resort and a corporation, government agency, or individual for a negotiated room rate in exchange for an agreed upon number of rooms to be rented for an extended period of time.) "
Appendix A, 1. Earning Points, Part 5. Base Points and Bonus Points: Eligible Rate
And, if you read the rest of the Terms of Conditions, it states over and over and over again the benefits that come when members stay at "Eligible rates", such as earning status, being able to redeem club access and TSU awards, when resort fees are waived, etc., without any need to state that "pt+Cash" is an 'eligible rate' because the above quoted text already described it as such.
And I quote:
"An “Eligible Rate” is defined as any hotel or resort room rate published by Hyatt (including rates found on hyatt.com without the application of a discount code, and Hyatt’s “Standard Rate,” “Volume Account Rates,” “Senior Citizen Rate,” and the monetary portion of any Points + Cash Award (as defined in Appendix B)) or, for Miraval properties, published by Miraval. A portion of an Eligible Rate may reflect taxes, service charges, gratuities, and third-party charges for certain included items, and those costs may not be eligible for points. “Ineligible Rates” are all rates other than Eligible Rates and include Free Night Awards (as defined in Appendix B), ), complimentary nights awarded in connection with Miraval’s Authentic Circle program, rooms booked on third-party online retailers (such as Expedia.com, Travelocity.com, Hotels.com, Booking.com, Priceline.com, Tripadvisor.com, Inspirato.com, or any other third-party online/mobile travel portal or bookings made directly on Google.com and TripAdvisor Instant Book), traditional wholesale rates (examples include, without limitation, GOGO Worldwide Vacations, Pleasant Holidays, Tourico, and Hotelbeds), airline crew rates, airline employee rates, travel agency employee rates, media rates, Club at the Hyatt discount stays, Hyatt employee or employee family or friends-and-family discount rates, airline interrupted-trip vouchers, or contracted rooms. (A “contracted room” is a room that has been reserved pursuant to a written and executed agreement between a hotel or resort and a corporation, government agency, or individual for a negotiated room rate in exchange for an agreed upon number of rooms to be rented for an extended period of time.) "
Appendix A, 1. Earning Points, Part 5. Base Points and Bonus Points: Eligible Rate
And, if you read the rest of the Terms of Conditions, it states over and over and over again the benefits that come when members stay at "Eligible rates", such as earning status, being able to redeem club access and TSU awards, when resort fees are waived, etc., without any need to state that "pt+Cash" is an 'eligible rate' because the above quoted text already described it as such.
C.II.a - In-hotel Benefits are provided only where, for the applicable night, the elite Member (a) has paid an Eligible Rate or (b) has redeemed a Free Night Award, Room Upgrade Award, or Points + Cash Award.
C.IV.d.2 - Explorist Club Lounge Access Awards are valid on nights for which the Member has paid an Eligible Rate or has redeemed points for a standard-room Free Night Award, Suite Free Night Award, or a Points + Cash Award, up to a maximum of seven (7) consecutive nights.
C.V.h.2 - Complimentary Suite Upgrade Awards are valid on nights for which the Member has paid an Eligible Rate or has redeemed points for a standard-room Free Night Award, a Club Free Night Award, or a Points + Cash Award, up to a maximum of seven (7) consecutive nights.
Feb 15, 2018, 2:28 pm
#37
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Stilllwater OK (SWO)
Programs: AAdvantage ExecPlat, World of Hyatt Globalist, plain "member" of Marriott, IHG, enterprise, etc.
Posts: 1,848
The T&Cs distinguish between Eligible Rate and Points+Cash in multiple places, including club access and suite upgrade awards. For example:
C.II.a - In-hotel Benefits are provided only where, for the applicable night, the elite Member (a) has paid an Eligible Rate or (b) has redeemed a Free Night Award, Room Upgrade Award, or Points + Cash Award.
C.IV.d.2 - Explorist Club Lounge Access Awards are valid on nights for which the Member has paid an Eligible Rate or has redeemed points for a standard-room Free Night Award, Suite Free Night Award, or a Points + Cash Award, up to a maximum of seven (7) consecutive nights.
C.V.h.2 - Complimentary Suite Upgrade Awards are valid on nights for which the Member has paid an Eligible Rate or has redeemed points for a standard-room Free Night Award, a Club Free Night Award, or a Points + Cash Award, up to a maximum of seven (7) consecutive nights.
C.II.a - In-hotel Benefits are provided only where, for the applicable night, the elite Member (a) has paid an Eligible Rate or (b) has redeemed a Free Night Award, Room Upgrade Award, or Points + Cash Award.
C.IV.d.2 - Explorist Club Lounge Access Awards are valid on nights for which the Member has paid an Eligible Rate or has redeemed points for a standard-room Free Night Award, Suite Free Night Award, or a Points + Cash Award, up to a maximum of seven (7) consecutive nights.
C.V.h.2 - Complimentary Suite Upgrade Awards are valid on nights for which the Member has paid an Eligible Rate or has redeemed points for a standard-room Free Night Award, a Club Free Night Award, or a Points + Cash Award, up to a maximum of seven (7) consecutive nights.
Also:
B.II.b.2 " A Member may earn a “5-Brand Free Night Award” after paying an Eligible Rate for a completed stay ..." No mention here of pts+cash, but as an eligible rate (as defined above), we know it counts.
C.I.a. "A Member may earn elite status based on the number of nights the Member (i) stays at a Hyatt hotel or resort or an M life Rewards destination; (ii) pays an Eligible Rate or redeems a Free Night Award; and (iii) associates his or her valid Program membership number..." Again. No mention here of pts+cash, but as an eligible rate (as defined above), we know it counts.
C.V.l "Resort or facility fees, where charged by the applicable hotel or resort, will be waived for Globalists when paying an Eligible Rate. (As described in Appendix B, resort or facility fees are waived for all Members when staying on a Free Night Award.) " Again. No mention here of pts+cash, but as an eligible rate (as defined above), we know it counts.
My point? Not to annoy everyone, only to point out that cash+pts always has counted as eligible rates.
Feb 15, 2018, 4:34 pm
#41
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Minnesota
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
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Feb 15, 2018, 5:27 pm
#42
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: CHS
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Posts: 1,012
My god. Every time a promo is brought up, someone mentions that it 'wasn't as good' as the 25/75k promo. Perhaps Hyatt would make less people mad by never offering that to being with.
As for the diamond amenity, it's been psuedo-replaced with cat-certificates (which for me, is actually slightly more valuable, but YMMV).
I am going to net 21,000 points with this promo. That's worth something like $420 at a 2 cent/pt value (which, is lower than I've yet to redeem pts for). I am not going to complain about it 'not being good enough'.
As for the diamond amenity, it's been psuedo-replaced with cat-certificates (which for me, is actually slightly more valuable, but YMMV).
I am going to net 21,000 points with this promo. That's worth something like $420 at a 2 cent/pt value (which, is lower than I've yet to redeem pts for). I am not going to complain about it 'not being good enough'.
It's certainly better than the promo at the end of last year but there's been a good bit of hopefulness that things would return to the heydeys with the (alleged) lower number of Diamonds and them hiring the individual from SPG. If this is the best they can come up with that optimism can be put to rest.
Like I said - it's better than nothing but it's certainly not anything that warrants excitement in my opinion. I'll probably spend my 4-5 nights in a Hyatt per month as normal but this isn't going to make me book away from any other chains for my other 15-20 nights a month. If it works out for you though, that's great.
Feb 15, 2018, 5:56 pm
#43
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Feb 15, 2018, 8:12 pm
#44
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Run from today to 5/15. 1000 points per night except HP or HH(500 points) Max 25,000 points
Run from today to 5/15. 1000 points per night except HP or HH(500 points) Max 25,000 points
Feb 15, 2018, 8:43 pm
#45
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