WoH (Globalist) Member Engagement Team
#151
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: United 1K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum; Hyatt Diamond/GLOB
Posts: 738
Although, I guess I told them I would be moving stays to Marriott/SPG from August through October so that i don't hit Glob until December, and I guess they could have interpreted that as meaning I was happy to be staying at Marriott/SPG.
#152
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Providence RI
Programs: American Exec Plat, Hyatt Refugeeist, Marriot Gold, Air Canada Cattle Class, Korean Air Morning Plat
Posts: 988
I stay at the Vancouver and San Francisco HR's about once a month for a week each. Every time I get the survey I slate the WoH and provide positive feedback about the staff and hotels, as they are both really good.
The FD manager recognized me at my last check-in and said that the WoH is changing. The changes are "coming" and "your feedback has been vital"
The FD manager recognized me at my last check-in and said that the WoH is changing. The changes are "coming" and "your feedback has been vital"
#153
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
#154
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, UA Silver, dirt elsewhere
Posts: 46,919
I think they've reached the damage control point which is why the engagement team is now saying something different.
#155
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Providence RI
Programs: American Exec Plat, Hyatt Refugeeist, Marriot Gold, Air Canada Cattle Class, Korean Air Morning Plat
Posts: 988
Great question..............
1- the whole WoH is a terrible disincentive to most frequent flyers
2- The rollout of a lifestyle brand rather than a points program was poorly thought out
3- that ridiculous Reddit AMA with Jeff Z was just a disaster
So in answer to your question...........I don't know. I know the message implied to me was "its gonna get better" but with this shambolic and crazy rollout, who knows?
1- the whole WoH is a terrible disincentive to most frequent flyers
2- The rollout of a lifestyle brand rather than a points program was poorly thought out
3- that ridiculous Reddit AMA with Jeff Z was just a disaster
So in answer to your question...........I don't know. I know the message implied to me was "its gonna get better" but with this shambolic and crazy rollout, who knows?
#156
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: United 1K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum; Hyatt Diamond/GLOB
Posts: 738
"We've heard that you dislike the 120 day use period of the Cat 1-4 certificates and the timing of the suite upgrade benefits, so to respond to the feedback of our most valued guests, we have changed the Cat 1-4 certificates to a 90 day period and removed the suite upgrade benefit completely because so many of you have said you would move to Marriott/SPG because of the timing of the certificates. At Hyatt, we listen to our most valued customers."
#157
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
Hyatt asks "Why settle....[for HP/HH as a Glob]?"
Ironically, I just got an email from Hyatt indicated as Glob in the upper right corner encouraging me to make reservations to stay at HPs and HHS this summer. The heading is "Why Settle on Your Next Summer Vacation?" The text emphasizes benefits such as free breakfast (without mentioning that it's free breakfast for all, not a Glob benefit) and large rooms (again, neglecting to mention that even when a HP or HH has an available suite, upgrades are not given as a Glob benefit).
To add to my grievances: Hyatt thinks we're stupid.
It would be fun to see the Hyatt data and verify just how many elites are booking away from Hyatt, especially the HP and HH brands, since WHOA has taken away even the minor benefits that top tier elites received as Diamonds while requiring so many more nights to retain meaningful (at other brands) status.
To add to my grievances: Hyatt thinks we're stupid.
It would be fun to see the Hyatt data and verify just how many elites are booking away from Hyatt, especially the HP and HH brands, since WHOA has taken away even the minor benefits that top tier elites received as Diamonds while requiring so many more nights to retain meaningful (at other brands) status.
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#159
Senior Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: UA Plat/2MM [23-yr. 1K, now emeritus] clawing way back to WN-A List; MR LT Titanium; HY Whateverist.
Posts: 12,396
As WoH Dirt-level, I got the same e-mail promoting HHs/HPs. Exactly because of the large footprint of these properties in the U.S. HY identity, is my reason why expanding elite tiers from 2 to 3 was unnecessary. I mean what practical in-property benefits is a higher WoH elite tier going to get one at the typical HH/HP? A larger bottle of purified water?
#161
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
Oh dear, the Hyatt email forgot to remind me that as a Glob, I might get one free bottle of water as my welcome amenity if I stay at a HP or HH. I guess they realized that it won't make a difference to me.
#163
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat
Posts: 182
Hyatt should play up the "joke" by placing a chilled champagne bucket on the counter and then when a Globalist checks in they can be like, "please accept our gift of a chilled bottle of fine... Dasani" and then enjoy the Globalist's reactions.
#164
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: USA
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 201
They'd tell everyone the feedback was overwhelmingly positive, regardless of how we really felt.
Last edited by cmglobal; Jun 17, 2017 at 12:11 am
#165
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417