WoH (Globalist) Member Engagement Team
#136
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,467
It's pure speculation.
There were reports a while back that WoH came from higher up (like, C suite). So it would be equally plausible to speculate that Zidell was simply charged with implementing the CEO's directives, and that he either was not enthusiastic enough about it such that he was termed, or found it so distasteful that he quit.
In any event, not sure I see the point of this game.
There were reports a while back that WoH came from higher up (like, C suite). So it would be equally plausible to speculate that Zidell was simply charged with implementing the CEO's directives, and that he either was not enthusiastic enough about it such that he was termed, or found it so distasteful that he quit.
In any event, not sure I see the point of this game.
#137
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
#138
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,467
#139
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: United 1K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum; Hyatt Diamond/GLOB
Posts: 738
I've been pretty consistent in my completions of the surveys with generally good reviews of the hotels but then brutally honest ratings and comments regarding WOH and how it benefited my stay.
A member of the engagement team reached out to talk via phone, but we could not get our schedules aligned, so I geeked out and wrote an overly long email about the problems and recommendations.
I shamelessly stole a ton of bullet points for the concerns and recommendations from you good folks at FT.
Sadly, I'm not expecting significant changes for the better any time soon. Organizations are very rarely willing to admit they were wrong on something like this, so unless their bottom line is taking a beating, I cannot imagine a quick reversal of course.
A member of the engagement team reached out to talk via phone, but we could not get our schedules aligned, so I geeked out and wrote an overly long email about the problems and recommendations.
I shamelessly stole a ton of bullet points for the concerns and recommendations from you good folks at FT.
Sadly, I'm not expecting significant changes for the better any time soon. Organizations are very rarely willing to admit they were wrong on something like this, so unless their bottom line is taking a beating, I cannot imagine a quick reversal of course.
#140
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: ABQ & RNO
Programs: AA EXP 4MM, Piper Dakota, Admirals Club, Hyatt Glob, Hilton Gold, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 1,426
I too am skeptical of big changes, but when the comments were offered to me without solicitation I thought I'd pass them on.
I was also reached out to by the Member Engagement Team a month ago, had a call from them and followed up with two lengthy emails. I do hope that they really want to right the ship.
I was also reached out to by the Member Engagement Team a month ago, had a call from them and followed up with two lengthy emails. I do hope that they really want to right the ship.
#141
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, UA Silver, dirt elsewhere
Posts: 46,919
I don't know him. Regardless that most here say Jeff Zidell is a great guy and couldn't have dreamed of this fiasco, if he was responsible for WoH, then I agree completely that he should be held accountable and be fired. Too may elements of WoH are just beyond comprehension of how stupid the terms are.
With regard to the DSU/TSUs expiring and not being able to be used beyond March 1, he asked if I thought it better if we received them as soon as they were earned. No further details. I responded it would be better because without the ability to book beyond March 1, people wanting to use them would have to wait until March 1 and cross their fingers. I never heard another word.
What we received is this disaster of a program. So I do believe this was all his idea.
#142
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
#143
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: ABQ & RNO
Programs: AA EXP 4MM, Piper Dakota, Admirals Club, Hyatt Glob, Hilton Gold, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 1,426
I had several email exchanges with him and a phone conversation not too long after the diamond giveaway fiasco.
With regard to the DSU/TSUs expiring and not being able to be used beyond March 1, he asked if I thought it better if we received them as soon as they were earned. No further details. I responded it would be better because without the ability to book beyond March 1, people wanting to use them would have to wait until March 1 and cross their fingers. I never heard another word.
What we received is this disaster of a program. So I do believe this was all his idea.
With regard to the DSU/TSUs expiring and not being able to be used beyond March 1, he asked if I thought it better if we received them as soon as they were earned. No further details. I responded it would be better because without the ability to book beyond March 1, people wanting to use them would have to wait until March 1 and cross their fingers. I never heard another word.
What we received is this disaster of a program. So I do believe this was all his idea.
#144
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Texas
Programs: Hyatt Glob (Barely); Marriott Plat Life; AA Up and Down Now Plat; Hilton, UA, BA, HA Peasant
Posts: 2,669
My anti-virus program just flagged World of Hyatt as a potentially malicious website and recommended I delete the app. Sometimes truth shows up in the strangest ways.
Did Jeff think up this fiasco all on his own? I doubt it, but somebody has to be blamed. At the very least he didn't roll it out without approval.
Did Jeff think up this fiasco all on his own? I doubt it, but somebody has to be blamed. At the very least he didn't roll it out without approval.
#145
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: DL DM MM, Hyatt LT Globalist, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 2,141
I spoke to someone from the engagement team today who told me they are gathering feedback until the end of next week, and laughably, that much of the feedback received was very positive.
I was asked if I would either prefer more benefits upon reaching Globalist at 60 nights or to achieve Globalist with fewer nights. I was also asked if I felt things like the cat 1-7 award night and ability to use suite upgrades on award stays validated the higher number of nights needed to achieve globalist.
The rep I spoke with couldn't give me a timeframe for when any action would be taken on the feedback gathered.
I was asked if I would either prefer more benefits upon reaching Globalist at 60 nights or to achieve Globalist with fewer nights. I was also asked if I felt things like the cat 1-7 award night and ability to use suite upgrades on award stays validated the higher number of nights needed to achieve globalist.
The rep I spoke with couldn't give me a timeframe for when any action would be taken on the feedback gathered.
#147
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: USA
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 201
#148
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,044
"Many customers expressed happiness with being able to time their 60th night in order to properly set the 365-day expiration clock on their TSUs!"
#149
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,770
Why couldn't they have just give us the benefits and make them expire when status expires? It's that easy. Oh but, then we might have 18 months to enjoy the benefits, and that's too generous.
Last edited by CIT85; Jun 16, 2017 at 12:32 am
#150
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, UA Silver, dirt elsewhere
Posts: 46,919
That is definitely spin. I was told exactly the opposite. I've also been in contact with a few people in the hotels and they also said everyone is complaining about it.