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CloudCoder May 11, 2015 1:46 pm

Good point, in the future I'll list the name and number of the person who should get stay credit, and just the name (not the number) of the person whose account isn't being used. Thanks.

Originally Posted by sethb (Post 24799597)
Why list both numbers on the reservation, rather than just the name of the person whose account isn't being used?


CloudCoder May 22, 2015 11:45 am

I came across a situation and I wonder if others have seen the same thing.

A hotel (Hyatt Place Des Moines) has plenty of All-Points availability but they have no Points & Cash Availability (until May 2016). It seems far-fetched to believe they're "Sold Out" that far in advance. Shall we assume that this hotel choose to opt out of participating in the Points & Cash program?

DHalltheway May 22, 2015 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by CloudCoder (Post 24855411)
I came across a situation and I wonder if others have seen the same thing.

A hotel (Hyatt Place Des Moines) has plenty of All-Points availability but they have no Points & Cash Availability (until May 2016). It seems far-fetched to believe they're "Sold Out" that far in advance. Shall we assume that this hotel choose to opt out of participating in the Points & Cash program?

The inventory for points & P+C has been separated out in my experience.

It is very normal for me to see all points but no P+C since late last year.

RTW1 May 22, 2015 12:01 pm

There is no generic opt-out for P+C, a property can simply decide for themselves when to offer it.

DaveInLA May 22, 2015 12:20 pm

Is it possible to upgrade to a suite (6k) or Club room (3k) with points in a P+C booking? The terms say upgrades can only occur on Daily Rate (and above) bookings but I was hoping someone has experienced otherwise.

RTW1 May 22, 2015 12:25 pm

No you cannot, the T&C's are correct.

DHalltheway May 22, 2015 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by DaveInLA (Post 24855561)
Is it possible to upgrade to a suite (6k) or Club room (3k) with points in a P+C booking? The terms say upgrades can only occur on Daily Rate (and above) bookings but I was hoping someone has experienced otherwise.

But you can try asking if they do P+C for club rooms though, or P+C & pay to upgrade your self to a higher category room..

DaveInLA May 22, 2015 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by DHalltheway (Post 24855695)

But you can try asking if they do P+C for club rooms though, or P+C & pay to upgrade your self to a higher category room..

I don't see any published rates for P+C for Club rooms. How are these calculated? Is it just $75 (or whatever) on top of the published rate?

DHalltheway May 22, 2015 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by DaveInLA (Post 24855742)
I don't see any published rates for P+C for Club rooms. How are these calculated? Is it just $75 (or whatever) on top of the published rate?

I said try and I won't bother doing it as a diamond.

RTW1 May 22, 2015 1:31 pm

It's not an option.... The only thing you can do is contact the property directly and ask if they are willing to upgrade you for a price. It's going to be at their discretion of they are willing and at what price. There are no standards here.

DaveInLA May 22, 2015 1:39 pm


Originally Posted by RTW1 (Post 24855862)
It's not an option.... The only thing you can do is contact the property directly and ask if they are willing to upgrade you for a price. It's going to be at their discretion of they are willing and at what price. There are no standards here.

I see, thanks. I was at HR SF last week on a pure award stay, the the person at desk offered a Club room for an additional $75. I wasn't sure if that was standard or hotel-dependent.

OsakaWino May 22, 2015 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by DaveInLA (Post 24855906)
I see, thanks. I was at HR SF last week on a pure award stay, the the person at desk offered a Club room for an additional $75. I wasn't sure if that was standard or hotel-dependent.

It is completely hotel dependent. Some hotels offer Club access on all types of rates when the Club is not full. It can be a great value for non-Diamond guests, especially with families at resort properties. But other (probably most) never allow this.

DHalltheway May 22, 2015 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by DaveInLA (Post 24855906)
I see, thanks. I was at HR SF last week on a pure award stay, the the person at desk offered a Club room for an additional $75. I wasn't sure if that was standard or hotel-dependent.


Originally Posted by OsakaWino (Post 24856870)
It is completely hotel dependent. Some hotels offer Club access on all types of rates when the Club is not full. It can be a great value for non-Diamond guests, especially with families at resort properties. But other (probably most) never allow this.

And sometimes when hyatt send you the confirmation email, they offer the ability to buy up to a higher room category.

Not sure why it is so hit and miss though because I typically get it for US properties but never Asian properties.

Cheetah_SA May 23, 2015 11:34 am

Just another data point regarding combining C&P with a DSU:

C&P was available at the PH Zurich for my dates in July as was a DSU. But it was strictly either/or - combining the two was not permitted.

hailstorm May 23, 2015 6:04 pm


Originally Posted by Cheetah_SA (Post 24859275)
Just another data point regarding combining C&P with a DSU:

C&P was available at the PH Zurich for my dates in July as was a DSU. But it was strictly either/or - combining the two was not permitted.

It seems that we have accounted for the full spectrum of possibilities:
  1. C&P available, C&P+DSU available with DSU suite availability
  2. C&P available, C&P+DSU not available despite DSU suite availability
  3. C&P available, C&P+DSU available even with no normal DSU suite availability
  4. C&P not available, C&P+DSU not available even with DSU suite availability
  5. C&P not available, but upgrade to C&P+DSU available with DSU suite availability
  6. C&P not available, but C&P+DSU available even with no suite availability
Perhaps there's more, but I'm starting to get a headache thinking about it...


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