New Hyatt Card Features
Sep 12, 2012, 10:54 am
#16
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Saigon/Hanoi/San Francisco
Posts: 1,779
Nothing exciting that will make me take the Hyatt Visa out of the drawer. If they matched the Citi Hilton card $40k spend for Diamond status, then I may bite.
Last edited by imm2b; Sep 12, 2012 at 11:57 am
Sep 12, 2012, 11:00 am
#18
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 4,511
After an initial fast start because of the two free nights this has quickly become a troubled card because the competition, even within the Chase card family, is too great. The two new enhancements aren't enough to pull it out of its slump.
Sep 12, 2012, 11:15 am
#20
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: NYC/LA
Programs: DL Plat, AA Plat Pro, Marriott Titanium, IHG Diamond Amb
Posts: 7,489
This change also somewhat mirrors the Marriott Premier card from Chase, which has an annual retention free night (but at a capped category) and gives 2x points on airline tickets, car rentals and dining.
That being said, the Marriott card is really only useful for the retention free night and for use at Marriott properties.
I would imagine the big challenge facing the managers of a lot of Chase co-branded card programs is simply that Chase has developed a product-- the CSP-- which is simply better, earning wise, than all of their co-branded cards.
That being said, the Marriott card is really only useful for the retention free night and for use at Marriott properties.
I would imagine the big challenge facing the managers of a lot of Chase co-branded card programs is simply that Chase has developed a product-- the CSP-- which is simply better, earning wise, than all of their co-branded cards.
Sep 12, 2012, 11:25 am
#21
Join Date: Aug 2006
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, SPG LT Plat, AA 3MM EXP
Posts: 397
I haven't read the comments in this thread first (I didn't want to be "swayed") but I think this card is doing GREAT THINGS with the benefits. I love the tie in to the status qualification and the extra points at restaurants/gas. That is huge. Great work on this guys! Now, I'll read this thread and get upset I'm sure that not everyone's happy. =)
Sep 12, 2012, 11:25 am
#22
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 126
I got excited when I received the email earlier thinking game changer for the Hyatt Visa
Was on a conference call and glanced briefly thinking it was free nights for threshold spending like the new Hilton Visa and thought way to go Gold Passport!
Reading more closely its stay credit toward elite status which as many others share is not going to move me from my other Chase card products or American Express Cards.
I also have to question the rational thought process when these are similar benefits of the award winning Starwood Preferred Guest credit card
with read my lips no annual spending thresholds
It appears highly shortsighted not inventive and mimicks other more generous benefits out in the marketplace IMHO
A slight baby step nod for the category spending but easily trumped by other card relationships with far greater versatility in ways to redeem.
Was on a conference call and glanced briefly thinking it was free nights for threshold spending like the new Hilton Visa and thought way to go Gold Passport!
Reading more closely its stay credit toward elite status which as many others share is not going to move me from my other Chase card products or American Express Cards.
I also have to question the rational thought process when these are similar benefits of the award winning Starwood Preferred Guest credit card
with read my lips no annual spending thresholds
It appears highly shortsighted not inventive and mimicks other more generous benefits out in the marketplace IMHO
A slight baby step nod for the category spending but easily trumped by other card relationships with far greater versatility in ways to redeem.
I am exclusively a leisure traveler who stays exclusively at category 5 and 6 properties and even with the extra 10 nights I will only be at 30 nights for the year...despite spending more than 12K on Hyatt this year.
Sep 12, 2012, 11:47 am
#24
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
Wont really change my hyatt card spend - still only really useful for paying at hyatt properties. Chase Sapphire Preferred still has more flexibility and higher point accrual for restaurants and travel (2% + 7% point dividend)
Sep 12, 2012, 12:38 pm
#27
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: FAT
Programs: AA mm, Hilton Dime, Hyatt Xpl.& PC Plat, Miracle Fruit-su club
Posts: 1,694
Nope, not a game changer, but let's not forget this accomplishes a few things:
1. Makes the card more competitive with other chains' cards.
2. Good for the unwashed hordes who may not be into the Ultimate Rewards game.
3. Top of mind awareness - Ad Nauseum Mentions in every travel blog that makes a buck from CC referrals.
Still not sure why they haven't released a business card.
1. Makes the card more competitive with other chains' cards.
2. Good for the unwashed hordes who may not be into the Ultimate Rewards game.
3. Top of mind awareness - Ad Nauseum Mentions in every travel blog that makes a buck from CC referrals.
Still not sure why they haven't released a business card.
Sep 12, 2012, 12:57 pm
#28
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 943
The bonus stay/night credit is worthless if you have no plans to go for Diamond. Some incremental spend may get shifted to this card due to the new spending categories but on the whole, the changes just put them head to head against other cards that offer stronger benefits and returns.
Instead of restaurants, airlines and car rentals, I would have liked to have seen restaurants, gas and grocery stores. That would have been enough for me to shift some of my AMEX spend.
Instead of restaurants, airlines and car rentals, I would have liked to have seen restaurants, gas and grocery stores. That would have been enough for me to shift some of my AMEX spend.
Sep 12, 2012, 1:02 pm
#29
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 943
I'll admit I don't understand who makes the decisions and how they come to decide which features get added, but if I'm a manager of a Chase co-branded credit card, I'm going to try and differentiate my card from the CSP as much as possible. I can't imagine someone at Hyatt doesn't recognize this. Are there some other factors in play here?
Sep 12, 2012, 1:29 pm
#30
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: NYC/LA
Programs: DL Plat, AA Plat Pro, Marriott Titanium, IHG Diamond Amb
Posts: 7,489
I'll admit I don't understand who makes the decisions and how they come to decide which features get added, but if I'm a manager of a Chase co-branded credit card, I'm going to try and differentiate my card from the CSP as much as possible. I can't imagine someone at Hyatt doesn't recognize this. Are there some other factors in play here?
The good thing is that they have made some changes. Let's not forget that the anniversary free night was not originally part of the card's benefits and was just added about one year ago, and now one year later they have added some new benefits. Of course, during the past two years a lot has changed with competitor cards-- there are now far more cards with no forex fees (one of the big differentiators when the Hyatt card first came out), and of course now there is the CSP which was overhauled significantly last summer. So I suppose these changes have really been more reactionary than anything else.
Perhaps there will be something else in store for us cardholders one year from now...