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Old Jun 12, 2014, 2:42 am
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Originally Posted by Tide_from_PAE
lmtclub.com is having some great deals on Caesars Entertainment properties this summer. I've been seeing weekday rates at the Flamingo, Harrah's and Bally's for $17-25 per night (plus taxes and resort fees) which include a $20 food credit per night. The Quad is available for as little as $10.50 (plus taxes and resort fees) and includes a $15 food credit per night.

For comparison, access to the Flamingo's GO pool is $25 per person, per day for non-CET guests.
LMTClub doesn't mention resort fees for those properties unlike some other Vegas hotels. Anyone with experience with that? I'm booked at Harrah's with a great rate, but it's not so great if the price is doubled with a resort fee.
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Old Jun 14, 2014, 1:03 pm
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vegas virgin here, booking a trip for ~ Aug 28 - Aug 31 2014. Wife and I are flying for free on our SW CP, looking for a good hotel package now.

Say we can book Luxor for ~80/night vs. venetian for $220 w/fees, is it worth the extra money? We also have 140K marriot points (+ 5 free night certs, cat 1-4), but not sure we want to blow them all in vegas this trip, may save for later SW CP trips.

I've been reading about the $20 sandwich upgrade method, will certainly give that a shot at check in, along with possibly avoiding resort fees via LMTClub booking...
Friends are staying at mandalay bay, so we'd like to spend 1 day at the pool. Can we buy a day pass? or are we stuck staying at least 1 night there to gain access to the pool? TIA
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Old Jun 14, 2014, 8:28 pm
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Hey I know I don't have many posts but I'm a Vegas veteran, so I hope you believe what I'm saying. Making a third party booking isn't going to exempt you from resort fees, lmtclub or hotwire or anything, the hotel is still going to tack on the resort fee once you get there. You can negotiate ($) with the front desk clerk with mixed results but I would anticipate an upgrade before a waiver of the resort fees.

It's almost always cheaper to book direct using a promo code, search the web for the codes, there are some good ones. Not to mention those bookings are fully cancelable. And before anyone tries to flame me, I said ALMOST always and I'm sure there are exceptions.

If you really can't live with resort fees I would recommend the total rewards visa, it will give you CET platinum status which means no resort fees, I can personally attest to this I did it this year. There's other benefits to the card also , look it up, it's a good no annual fee card.

To the guy deciding between Luxor and Venetian, yes its night and day difference and opposite ends of the strip.

Hope this helps y'all.
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Old Jun 15, 2014, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by Doozle
Hey I know I don't have many posts but I'm a Vegas veteran, so I hope you believe what I'm saying. Making a third party booking isn't going to exempt you from resort fees, lmtclub or hotwire or anything, the hotel is still going to tack on the resort fee once you get there. You can negotiate ($) with the front desk clerk with mixed results but I would anticipate an upgrade before a waiver of the resort fees.

It's almost always cheaper to book direct using a promo code, search the web for the codes, there are some good ones. Not to mention those bookings are fully cancelable. And before anyone tries to flame me, I said ALMOST always and I'm sure there are exceptions.

If you really can't live with resort fees I would recommend the total rewards visa, it will give you CET platinum status which means no resort fees, I can personally attest to this I did it this year. There's other benefits to the card also , look it up, it's a good no annual fee card.

To the guy deciding between Luxor and Venetian, yes its night and day difference and opposite ends of the strip.

Hope this helps y'all.
Yes, booking third party can exempt you from resort fees. Booking hotel only on the BA site has long offered low price and no resort fees on a number of properties (NYNY, MC, Bellagio, etc). This past week we completed stays at Paris and PH booked thru Travelpony, no resort fees.

And it's not 'almost always' cheaper to book direct. It's generally a toss up. Some properties like Cosmo, Red Rock or 4S will always be cheaper third party. Others may be better direct if the credits they offer are useful to you. I usually don't want the show tickets or buffets they offer so end up booking on price alone which invariably means going with a third party. Takes a really exceptional and more flexible direct offer like the MLife Royal Caribbean deal to get me to book direct. And you don't need to book direct to be able to easily cancel.

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Old Jun 15, 2014, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by bryan995
vegas virgin here, booking a trip for ~ Aug 28 - Aug 31 2014. Wife and I are flying for free on our SW CP, looking for a good hotel package now.

Say we can book Luxor for ~80/night vs. venetian for $220 w/fees, is it worth the extra money? We also have 140K marriot points (+ 5 free night certs, cat 1-4), but not sure we want to blow them all in vegas this trip, may save for later SW CP trips.

I've been reading about the $20 sandwich upgrade method, will certainly give that a shot at check in, along with possibly avoiding resort fees via LMTClub booking...
Friends are staying at mandalay bay, so we'd like to spend 1 day at the pool. Can we buy a day pass? or are we stuck staying at least 1 night there to gain access to the pool? TIA
I can attest to what @Doozle has said in his post with respect to avoiding resort fees, etc; its just a trade off with going to Vegas and as he's said if you don't want to pay them your options are limited.

Not directed at the OP, but I find it ironic how everyone moans about the resort fees, but they want to use all of the amenities?!? If you want to have a room to stay in and nothing more, why not just book a Motel 6 somewhere in the middle of the desert?!?

That said, when it comes to hotels in Vegas, you get what you pay for! If you don't mind a dark, smoke filled casino floor, on the south end of the strip most likely filled with weekend booze hounds and general 'interesting characters' for lack of better terms, go with Luxor. On the other hand if you want a clean, modern, higher-end atmosphere on the North side of the strip than go with Venetian. The price difference between the two properties is indicative of the difference in 'class' of each property and of course the prices are typically doubled on the weekends in comparison to the weekdays.

If you want to visit the pool at Mandalay Bay, you can purchase a day pass as is the case with all of the major pool clubs in Vegas as they're often a destination on their own.

If you do the homework, you can find some great deals online as mentioned when you book direct using a discount code. Also if you sign up for the players reward program you'll receive promos via email.
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Old Jun 15, 2014, 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by Neil791
I can attest to what @Doozle has said in his post with respect to avoiding resort fees, etc; its just a trade off with going to Vegas and as he's said if you don't want to pay them your options are limited.

Not directed at the OP, but I find it ironic how everyone moans about the resort fees, but they want to use all of the amenities?!? If you want to have a room to stay in and nothing more, why not just book a Motel 6 somewhere in the middle of the desert?!?

That said, when it comes to hotels in Vegas, you get what you pay for! If you don't mind a dark, smoke filled casino floor, on the south end of the strip most likely filled with weekend booze hounds and general 'interesting characters' for lack of better terms, go with Luxor. On the other hand if you want a clean, modern, higher-end atmosphere on the North side of the strip than go with Venetian. The price difference between the two properties is indicative of the difference in 'class' of each property and of course the prices are typically doubled on the weekends in comparison to the weekdays.

If you want to visit the pool at Mandalay Bay, you can purchase a day pass as is the case with all of the major pool clubs in Vegas as they're often a destination on their own.

If you do the homework, you can find some great deals online as mentioned when you book direct using a discount code. Also if you sign up for the players reward program you'll receive promos via email.
The resort fee has nothing to do with the associated amenities. That's simply marketing and packaging. The fee exists so that the base rate will appear lower in third party search engines. And btw forget about a Motel 6, a decent Hampton Inn offers more included amenities than most of the Vegas resorts associate with their 'resort fee.' No consumer should be defending resort fees. They are simply not in the consumers interest.

And Mandalay Bay afaik (?) only offers day passes when you rent a cabana or for some concerts.
For guest safety and security, the Lagoon is open only to registered guests of Mandalay Bay or THEhotel; however, a non–guest can have access by renting a cabana Monday thru Thursday. Please call Cabana Reservations at 877.305.3136 for reservations and questions.
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Old Jun 15, 2014, 10:24 am
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I keep hearing about how LV is struggling, but we just booked at Wynn for August, a time I thought would offer great hotel deals. Was surprised to find that the Salon suites at Wynn for which we have often paid $500 a night are $1,000 a night even in the hellish summer months. Am I missing something?
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Old Jun 15, 2014, 7:49 pm
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Originally Posted by trajanc
Yes, booking third party can exempt you from resort fees. Booking hotel only on the BA site has long offered low price and no resort fees on a number of properties (NYNY, MC, Bellagio, etc). This past week we completed stays at Paris and PH booked thru Travelpony, no resort fees.

And it's not 'almost always' cheaper to book direct. It's generally a toss up. Some properties like Cosmo, Red Rock or 4S will always be cheaper third party. Others may be better direct if the credits they offer are useful to you. I usually don't want the show tickets or buffets they offer so end up booking on price alone which invariably means going with a third party. Takes a really exceptional and more flexible direct offer like the MLife Royal Caribbean deal to get me to book direct. And you don't need to book direct to be able to easily cancel.
I'm not going to argue with strangers on the internet but anyone out there looking for advice, if you book third party and there is no mention of resort fees and you show up not expecting to pay them, be prepared for disappointment.

BTW exceptional direct offers like mlife rc deal are always available with mlife or total rewards resorts. Everyone out there do your homework and have fun.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 5:38 am
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[QUOTE=Doozle;23039834]I'm not going to argue with strangers on the internet but anyone out there looking for advice, if you book third party and there is no mention of resort fees and you show up not expecting to pay them, be prepared for disappointment. QUOTE]

Exactly!

Originally Posted by trajanc
No consumer should be defending resort fees. They are simply not in the consumers interest.
I'm not defending anything, I'm simply saying that if people are going to LV with the sole aim of avoiding resort fees they're going to be a) wasting a lot of time and b) most likely end up disappointed.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 6:33 am
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It's not about avoiding fees, it's about figuring out what the total cost is going to be. The resort fees, especially when it's not clear if they are going to be charged (or how much!), make it much more difficult to compare rates.

The only thing I've read so far in regards to LMTclub and resort fees is the ones not specifically mentioning resort fees have them included/waived in the price. Very few reports with actual experience with those few hotels and LMTclub though, so that I'm taking those with a grain of salt. But if the fees are included/waived there can be some good deals.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by alphaeagle
It's not about avoiding fees, it's about figuring out what the total cost is going to be. The resort fees, especially when it's not clear if they are going to be charged (or how much!), make it much more difficult to compare rates.
Here's the most up to date list of resort fees...

http://www.vegaschatter.com/story/20...The+2014+Guide

at the end of the day if you've got a budget (resort fees included) just stick with that and make your decision accordingly. if you want to stay in a 5* resort you're going to pay accordingly, if you want to save money you're going to be staying in a lower class hotel....pretty simple!
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by Neil791
Here's the most up to date list of resort fees...

http://www.vegaschatter.com/story/20...The+2014+Guide

at the end of the day if you've got a budget (resort fees included) just stick with that and make your decision accordingly. if you want to stay in a 5* resort you're going to pay accordingly, if you want to save money you're going to be staying in a lower class hotel....pretty simple!
Thanks for the link, I'm probably going to risk it and hope the resort fee is included with LMTclub, in the end it's only about $20 so not a huge deal. Just would stay at a different place if I knew for sure that I'd pay the extra amount.

I'll report back if the LMTclub booking does waive it, or not.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Doozle
I'm not going to argue with strangers on the internet but anyone out there looking for advice, if you book third party and there is no mention of resort fees and you show up not expecting to pay them, be prepared for disappointment.

BTW exceptional direct offers like mlife rc deal are always available with mlife or total rewards resorts. Everyone out there do your homework and have fun.
What's there to argue about? You were wrong. It's not a big deal. Happens to the best of us. And I still agree with your first paragraph here. People should definitely do more research in such a case because options do exist.

And 'exceptional direct offers' like that are available for both programs all the time? The RC offer includes a general resort credit that in many instances is worth more than the actual cost of the room. I check the offers for both programs constantly and they have some good ones regularly but not like that. That offer is gold and I am surprised it has not gotten more attention here.

I don't really care about whether I book direct or third party. I'll happily book either way if it gets me the best deal.
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 1:41 am
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Is lastminutetravel a reputable site to book through?
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 3:01 pm
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Originally Posted by bonsai500
Is lastminutetravel a reputable site to book through?
I've used it without any issues, but I can usually find better deals booking direct.
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