Is Hotels.com "free night" better than rewards program?
#241
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Earth. Residency:HKG formerly:YYZ
Programs: CX, DL, Nexus/GE, APEC
Posts: 10,689
Everyone's value is different.
I get better value from Hotel.com not because of the free night but also many places that I need to visit are outside the footprint of the majors. I ended up with points in a few different programs that never got me anywhere.
Some people value a free flight to Detriot, Cleveland or Mississipi. Many others do not.
I get better value from Hotel.com not because of the free night but also many places that I need to visit are outside the footprint of the majors. I ended up with points in a few different programs that never got me anywhere.
Some people value a free flight to Detriot, Cleveland or Mississipi. Many others do not.
#242
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Georgia
Programs: Hilton
Posts: 4
Hotels.com Is Easier
Easier to use Hotels.com since they have all the different brands under one roof. Even if you could get the same level of rewards elsewhere (difficult), they just cover more ground.
#243
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bangkok, Thailand. No longer Palm Coast, FL though still exiled, again, from the Bay Area.
Programs: Only the good ones
Posts: 5,153
Not to mention that when there has been a problem, they usually correct it quickly and fairly. Once I booked a "resort" in the Thai countryside that turned out to be a dump, with a major algae issue in the pool so it didn't look anything like the pictures, etc, and the FD wouldn't do anything, so we just left after about an hour, so they refunded 100% and gave us the stay credit. I generally use hotels.com for my stays in the Thai countryside, so my free night is usually like US$30 but still works as none of the other programs have anything out there. Some other sites have the same properties, i.e. EX which owns hotels.com, some on PL, bu t not as good a rewards deal.
#244
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,392
Not to mention that when there has been a problem, they usually correct it quickly and fairly. Once I booked a "resort" in the Thai countryside that turned out to be a dump, with a major algae issue in the pool so it didn't look anything like the pictures, etc, and the FD wouldn't do anything, so we just left after about an hour, so they refunded 100% and gave us the stay credit. I generally use hotels.com for my stays in the Thai countryside, so my free night is usually like US$30 but still works as none of the other programs have anything out there. Some other sites have the same properties, i.e. EX which owns hotels.com, some on PL, bu t not as good a rewards deal.
#245
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Mexico City, MX
Programs: No airline/hotel status use, Chase UR, Amex MR, CapOne etc
Posts: 266
#247
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: HSV
Programs: Hy Glob,Choice Dia, MR TIT,IHG SPR,HH Dia, Wyn Dia, UA Sil, WN Alis, Hert 5*, National EE
Posts: 1,188
I have been thinking of switching to hotels.com
i book a lot of cheap rooms for people that work at my company. Mostly Wyndham and Choice.
main reason I go through these programs is being able to cancel or extend reservations easily.
Are the hotels.com reservations easy to modify?
i book a lot of cheap rooms for people that work at my company. Mostly Wyndham and Choice.
main reason I go through these programs is being able to cancel or extend reservations easily.
Are the hotels.com reservations easy to modify?
#248
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: New York
Programs: Navy A-4 Skyhawk, B727 FE/FO, S80 FO, B757/767 FO, B737 CA
Posts: 1,342
I have been thinking of switching to hotels.com
i book a lot of cheap rooms for people that work at my company. Mostly Wyndham and Choice.
main reason I go through these programs is being able to cancel or extend reservations easily.
Are the hotels.com reservations easy to modify?
i book a lot of cheap rooms for people that work at my company. Mostly Wyndham and Choice.
main reason I go through these programs is being able to cancel or extend reservations easily.
Are the hotels.com reservations easy to modify?
So, to answer your question without being so wordy...if you want no hassle when modifying or cancelling, book the changeable rate with Hotels.com.
#251
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: DTW
Programs: Alaska, Delta, Southwest
Posts: 1,663
Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in here...
As I'm sure most of you know, Hotels.com, Orbitz, VRBO, and Travelocity (which I believe has ceased to exist as its own brand) are all part of Expedia, but each has different rewards. In summary:
Hotels.com is simplest and potentially most valuable:
- Free night after 10 paid, so effectively 10% back ... But also the most restrictive:
- Reward expiration after only 12 months- Need a full 10 nights' worth to be able to redeem, and can only redeem for base rate (not taxes and fees), so high potential for breakage
- Some properties only participate in earning but not redemptions
- Can only be earned/redeemed at hotels
Expedia is less valuable:
- 2 points per dollar spent on desktop or 4 points via the app, and 140 points can be redeemed for $1 off (0.7 cents per point), so potentially up to 2.8% back ...
But more versatile:
- 18 month expiration- Can use for partial redemptions, reducing the probability of loss due to expiration
- Can be earned and redeemed for hotels, rental cars, activities, etc. (basically anything Expedia offers except flights, as these have different earnings and redemptions as far as I can tell - I don't have experience here as I don't use third parties for booking flights due to IRROPs logistics)
I'm not familiar enough with Orbitz to make such a comparison but I hear it's more valuable for hotels and less valuable for everything else.
My strategy moving forward will be to concentrate on Hyatt where it's available (I have status with them and also collect Chase points, for which Hyatt is one of the most valuable partners), and use Expedia wherever Hyatt isn't an option (I find myself taking trips I wouldn't have taken otherwise to prevent Hotels.com reward expiration, so I'd ultimately get more value out of Expedia despite its theoretical lower return).
As I'm sure most of you know, Hotels.com, Orbitz, VRBO, and Travelocity (which I believe has ceased to exist as its own brand) are all part of Expedia, but each has different rewards. In summary:
Hotels.com is simplest and potentially most valuable:
- Free night after 10 paid, so effectively 10% back ... But also the most restrictive:
- Reward expiration after only 12 months- Need a full 10 nights' worth to be able to redeem, and can only redeem for base rate (not taxes and fees), so high potential for breakage
- Some properties only participate in earning but not redemptions
- Can only be earned/redeemed at hotels
Expedia is less valuable:
- 2 points per dollar spent on desktop or 4 points via the app, and 140 points can be redeemed for $1 off (0.7 cents per point), so potentially up to 2.8% back ...
But more versatile:
- 18 month expiration- Can use for partial redemptions, reducing the probability of loss due to expiration
- Can be earned and redeemed for hotels, rental cars, activities, etc. (basically anything Expedia offers except flights, as these have different earnings and redemptions as far as I can tell - I don't have experience here as I don't use third parties for booking flights due to IRROPs logistics)
I'm not familiar enough with Orbitz to make such a comparison but I hear it's more valuable for hotels and less valuable for everything else.
My strategy moving forward will be to concentrate on Hyatt where it's available (I have status with them and also collect Chase points, for which Hyatt is one of the most valuable partners), and use Expedia wherever Hyatt isn't an option (I find myself taking trips I wouldn't have taken otherwise to prevent Hotels.com reward expiration, so I'd ultimately get more value out of Expedia despite its theoretical lower return).
Last edited by strickerj; Aug 23, 2021 at 10:33 am Reason: Fix formatting
#252
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
I had been very easily getting c 10+% rebates (good toward Hotel.com nights) on my Hotels.com' expenditures, but then they tightened up in some way and the rebate became a bit more marginal. For some trips, they are much better than what I'd see from any of the major hotel loyalty programs and way better than what I'd get elsewhere.
But Hotels.com's expiration policy can be annoyingly brutal for some if not paying attention to expiration stuff. I know someone who lost 4+ free nights worth $350+ merely because they were two days late to make a booking to keep alive the earned free nights.
But Hotels.com's expiration policy can be annoyingly brutal for some if not paying attention to expiration stuff. I know someone who lost 4+ free nights worth $350+ merely because they were two days late to make a booking to keep alive the earned free nights.
#253
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: PDX|AKL|AMS|GVA|AGP|CPT - or somewhere in between
Programs: DL DM; 2MM
Posts: 2,418
AUCH !
Just now reading about this huge devaluation: https://www.doctorofcredit.com/hotel...-to-2-one-key/
Guess I will have to use my last $2000 in Hotels.com gift cards plus free nights and move on.
So unfortunate !
Guess I will have to use my last $2000 in Hotels.com gift cards plus free nights and move on.
So unfortunate !
#254
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,018
Just now reading about this huge devaluation: https://www.doctorofcredit.com/hotel...-to-2-one-key/
Guess I will have to use my last $2000 in Hotels.com gift cards plus free nights and move on.
So unfortunate !
Guess I will have to use my last $2000 in Hotels.com gift cards plus free nights and move on.
So unfortunate !
#255
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 5,867
The only incentive to use Hotels.com now would be if you're able to find discounted gift cards which occasionally happen. But the rewards program is essentially dead for me, would prefer to just book directly through a hotel's site and have peace of mind knowing that no funny business will occur.