HK Re-Opening to Non-Residents
#151
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For what it is worth, the Government now has a webpage showing quarantine room availability.
https://www.coronavirus.gov.hk/eng/d...ng-status.html
https://www.coronavirus.gov.hk/eng/d...ng-status.html
Best to call the "reservation" dept of the property you are interested in and give them your dates.
#152
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That's precisely why I said "for what it's worth." Problem is, calling a dozen hotels every day becomes impracticable, so every bit of information, even if it's not right up-to-date, has value.
What I've found surprising -- and wrong -- is that some hotels have a 21-day minimum in early December. That is, 14-day quarantines not accepted (unless you pay for 21). Surely their agreement with the Government doesn't permit this sort of gouging.
What I've found surprising -- and wrong -- is that some hotels have a 21-day minimum in early December. That is, 14-day quarantines not accepted (unless you pay for 21). Surely their agreement with the Government doesn't permit this sort of gouging.
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So the Joint Declaration is pretty much a bunch of BS to us anyway. Hong Kong is going to become another Mainland city. It is just a matter on the level of autonomy.
A classic sign of distrust of the Government. FWIW - I am not saying there is anything wrong with that.
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Given the way infection rates have been rising in Europe recently, I've become concerned that a large group of countries is going to be moved from B to A soon. But where are the rooms to cover an increase in quarantine to 21 days for a large number of travelers?
#156
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Silver lining is Government is said to not be considering further restrictions on cross-border crew.
In other news those discharged from hospital from Covid will still face 14 days' quarantine in North Lantau Hospital https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...6-20211026.htm . This only works if Government can maintain Covid Zero, I don't see how this works with a sizeable community outbreak.
In other news those discharged from hospital from Covid will still face 14 days' quarantine in North Lantau Hospital https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...6-20211026.htm . This only works if Government can maintain Covid Zero, I don't see how this works with a sizeable community outbreak.
Consular staff are going to be sent to hotels, consuls and senior consular staff will get home quarantine (previously: home quarantine and exempt respectively). Consular officers only have functional immunity, so I guess this is legal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consul...nity_in_the_US
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Ok not as bad as first thought. Air crew not affected. Was worried Govt might attempt to put foreign crews into HK's 35 day closed loop.
Consular staff are going to be sent to hotels, consuls and senior consular staff will get home quarantine (previously: home quarantine and exempt respectively). Consular officers only have functional immunity, so I guess this is legal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consul...nity_in_the_US
Consular staff are going to be sent to hotels, consuls and senior consular staff will get home quarantine (previously: home quarantine and exempt respectively). Consular officers only have functional immunity, so I guess this is legal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consul...nity_in_the_US
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It's worse for flight crew which you can see from the fact that all US airlines change their crew in ICN before flying into China to get around the restrictions.
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Zhong Nanshan claimed cost of Covid Zero > living with Covid, though his reasoning seems to be predicated on (other) countries choosing to change their mind after trying to live with Covid. And of course, China having the ability to quash outbreaks. We may be living with this fiction for the while if this is the Party line.
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Zhong Nanshan claimed cost of Covid Zero > living with Covid, though his reasoning seems to be predicated on (other) countries choosing to change their mind after trying to live with Covid. And of course, China having the ability to quash outbreaks. We may be living with this fiction for the while if this is the Party line.
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I think the only other covid zero country currently is New Zealand. Japan and South Korea have exemptions if one is a business traveler - Japan 3 days and Korea no quarantine. Korea also has a direct family exemption.
Clearly they don’t care about New Zealand so the only way this actually changes in the short term is if there is an uncontrollable outbreak.
Clearly they don’t care about New Zealand so the only way this actually changes in the short term is if there is an uncontrollable outbreak.
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I think the only other covid zero country currently is New Zealand. Japan and South Korea have exemptions if one is a business traveler - Japan 3 days and Korea no quarantine. Korea also has a direct family exemption.
Clearly they don’t care about New Zealand so the only way this actually changes in the short term is if there is an uncontrollable outbreak.
Clearly they don’t care about New Zealand so the only way this actually changes in the short term is if there is an uncontrollable outbreak.
New Zealand to abandon zero-Covid strategy as Delta variant proves hard to shake
NZ announced they are giving up on covid-0 a month ago. Taiwan is walking back quarantine restrictions albeit slowly.And then there was one....
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New Zealand to abandon zero-Covid strategy as Delta variant proves hard to shake - CNN
And then there was one....
New Zealand to abandon zero-Covid strategy as Delta variant proves hard to shake
NZ announced they are giving up on covid-0 a month ago. Taiwan is walking back quarantine restrictions albeit slowly.And then there was one....