Visconti

Guys, I'm just thankful this is China and not other Third World countries where the social justice warrior virtual signaling clique would go absolute rabid and try to stop us from controlling this potential outbreak.

ranles

WHO level 4? Do not travel to China? I am in USA scheduled to fly thru HKG (CX) Mon. Feb 3. I don't understand any of the "rules" When to WHO website but did not get answers. It is about 9PM Thursday, and news announced this data? Is this main land or inclusive of HKG? How to I best stay on top of what the airlines are doing? CDC? etc.

nk15

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LapLap

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You and me both, right?

Visconti

And, hopefully a few others, since our (at least mine) Govts are reticent to act aggressively to deal with this. Our, you and I, objectives are to keep it out of our (USA for me and UK for you) respective Countries, and then for my own selfish reasons, to keep it out of HK proper. The last thing I want is to see HK soiled by something like this, yet again.

LapLap

My brain is turning to mush reading this.

Visconti

My regrets. Whenever I try to be diplomatic, it's generally an epic failure. Let me try to rephrase. When I use "us," it only means the USA. I couldn't care less about any other country, since it's none of my business or concern. The only exception is HK, because of the special place that city and its people hold for me.

thbe

According to the CDC there are 19 millions infections, 180,000 hospitalizations and at least 10,000 deaths by flu in the US in this season so far (since end of September 2019). Flu is stated as "widespread" in almost all states of the US.

Maybe you should spend some hope on that as well.

Visconti

The flu has been here for mine and my family's entire life. We have flu shots, wash our hands, etc. We can deal with the flu as we always have and still make an effort not to introduce any novel new viruses. What's the saying? I can walk and chew gum at the same time. It makes no sense to introduce new viruses if we can avoid it.

ranles

We got our tickets refunded and rebooked thru Syd instead of hkg on the way to dps. Wife and I feel better and we are less like to get sick, OR be part of any spreading. As replied earlier, a week is a long time, and so has been the past 4 days.

Eagle2000

Apples and oranges.... I'm with you Visconti, typical Pro-CCP distraction tactics.

Visconti

I'm not picking on the PRC, and my views would be the same regardless of whatever other country in which something like this breaks out, even my own. Here in the USA, we've had the cold/flu probably every generation, and I myself have had it countless times. I'd imagine most of us here have gotten some kind of resistance to it, and neither I nor any of my family have ever even remotely come close to dying after countless cold/flus.

Now, this novel coronavirus is from a bat or some kind of animal in China? Odds are it's strain has never been in America, and may pose a higher risk to me than the flu/cold in which I'm used to. While I MUST deal with the flu, I don't and shouldn't have to with a virus that should and could have been contained in Wuhan.

helvetic

Just booked another roundtrip in march for $580 in Y, upgrades both way with SWU. Hoping that AA will freak out and cancel the HKG route and put me up on CX.

thbe

I didn’t propose to introduce new viruses. What I’m saying is, that worrying about high risks makes much more sense than worrying about low risks. Your government can let in or not whoever they think it’s a good idea or not.

But having more than 10,000 people dying by flu in your country in the last months and feeling happy anyway that there are no infections about another kind of virus, isn’t good. There are many many other viruses in the world, which are no danger for the US. Of course you can celebrate not having them every hour of the year and having more than 50,000 deaths the same time.

thbe

You can let your bs generator turned off, if that is even possible. Closing borders to China makes sense. China does have a real problem about corona. Not as big as the actual problem of flu in the US, but still real and serious.

Feeling happy for not having a virus like corona while many thousands are dying because of flu, doesn’t make any sense. Every country should take their own viruses very serious and closing borders can be part of that. You guys don’t take your own viruses serious, even if many more people of your country a getting sick or die by that.