May 26, 2014, 3:09 pm
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Hilton HHonors American Express Surpass card. 155,000 points for spending $3,000 in 3 months; $95 annual fee. Offer Expires Apr. 17, 2024
Hilton HHonors American Express Surpass card. 170,000 points for spending $3,000 in 3 months; $95 annual fee. Expired Jan 17 2024
Hilton HHonors American Express Surpass card. 130,000 points for spending $4,000 in 4 months; $95 annual fee. OFFER EXPIRED AUG 28.
Hilton HHonors American Express Ascend card. 75,000 points for spending $2,000 in 3 months+ 25,000 points after additional $1000 in 6 months; $95 annual fee.
Note: For existing Surpass card holders, AMEX verbally confirmed that on or after 20 January 2018, card holders can call in and request cards be converted to Aspire - while maintaining the same credit card number, balance limits, PIN, etc.
Card features:
Check your application status
Linking AmexAscend Surpass to your Hilton Honors account.Many (most?) have reported that a new Hilton Honors number gets assigned by Amex even when they put their existing Hilton Honors number in the application, and it can take several weeks to get this worked out. However, the key to making things go smoothly seems to be an exact match of your name and address between Amex and Hilton, including adding your middle initial to your Hilton Honors account if you use it on your Amex. When everything matches, an Amex rep should be able to update the account number, it should "go through" immediately, and the correct Hilton account number will be reflected on the Amex website in about 2 days.
Is the AmexAscend Surpass churnable?As of May 1, 2014, Amex will not give a signup bonus to card applicants who have held the card in the past ~7 years, even if the applicant has never earned a previous signup bonus for it. However, it is still possible to upgrade an existing Hilton Amex to the Ascend Surpass card to earn a bonus (and reportedly to do this more than once by later downgrading & then upgrading again). The best strategy is to earn a Ascend Surpass signup bonus first, and only afterward pursue the upgrade bonus(es).
For information on other Hilton-branded credit cards, see the wiki at Ongoing offers for Hilton cards issued by Amex or Citi
- Important limitation on this offer: "Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have or have had this product."
Note: For existing Surpass card holders, AMEX verbally confirmed that on or after 20 January 2018, card holders can call in and request cards be converted to Aspire - while maintaining the same credit card number, balance limits, PIN, etc.
Card features:
- Annual fee:
$95$150, no first-year waiver. - Earning: 12 HHonors points per dollar on Hilton spend; 6 points/$ at U.S. restaurants, supermarkets & gas stations; 4 points for online retail purchases (as of 2023); and 3 points/$ on everything else.
- Elite status: Hilton Gold status for as long as you have the card and Diamond status after $40,000 in annual spend.
- Booking bonus: 500 bonus points for every stay (including award stays) booked directly with Hilton & guaranteed with the card
Check your application status
Linking Amex
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For information on other Hilton-branded credit cards, see the wiki at Ongoing offers for Hilton cards issued by Amex or Citi
The Hilton Honors Surpass Card from American Express (formerly called Ascend)
Apr 4, 2016, 11:58 am
#31
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: SEA
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold
Posts: 539
I already have the Amex Hilton with no annual fee. Just today, I logged on and found that my Hilton is eligible to upgrade to Surpass card with 100K point bonus after $3k spending. Should I upgrade or should I apply as a new card for the same offer? If I upgrade, is it possible to downgrade in the future since I still want to keep the no annual fee card for the long run? If so, how soon can I downgrade?
Apr 4, 2016, 12:11 pm
#32
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: On strike
Posts: 8,135
I already have the Amex Hilton with no annual fee. Just today, I logged on and found that my Hilton is eligible to upgrade to Surpass card with 100K point bonus after $3k spending. Should I upgrade or should I apply as a new card for the same offer? If I upgrade, is it possible to downgrade in the future since I still want to keep the no annual fee card for the long run? If so, how soon can I downgrade?
Apr 4, 2016, 12:31 pm
#33
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: DL: DM; MR: GE, HH: Diamond, SPG: Gold
Posts: 93
Apologies if this has been answered, did a quick search but couldn't find it.
When does the 12x points for completing a stay post? I just completed my first stay and it gave me the 500 bonus points for booking directly, but I do not see the 12x for Surpass.
When does the 12x points for completing a stay post? I just completed my first stay and it gave me the 500 bonus points for booking directly, but I do not see the 12x for Surpass.
Apr 4, 2016, 12:55 pm
#34
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: On strike
Posts: 8,135
It's not 12x for a stay; it's 12x for Hilton-related spend. You'll get the points (base + bonus) at the end of each billing cycle, just as with other cards that have fixed bonus categories.
Apr 4, 2016, 5:40 pm
#35
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 432
According to the wiki, I should apply and then upgrade to get 2x100k bonus, right? If the card is canceled right after bonus is obtained, will we get annual fee refund?
Apr 4, 2016, 11:27 pm
#36
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: ANC
Programs: AS, UA, IHG, HH,
Posts: 171
I already have the Amex Hilton with no annual fee. Just today, I logged on and found that my Hilton is eligible to upgrade to Surpass card with 100K point bonus after $3k spending. Should I upgrade or should I apply as a new card for the same offer? If I upgrade, is it possible to downgrade in the future since I still want to keep the no annual fee card for the long run? If so, how soon can I downgrade?
Apr 4, 2016, 11:32 pm
#37
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: ANC
Programs: AS, UA, IHG, HH,
Posts: 171
I personally wouldn't cancel right a receiving a bonus but its whatever you feel comfortable with.
Apr 5, 2016, 3:28 am
#38
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 432
If you already have the no annual fee version with a 100k offer to upgrade that is the best deal (at least for me). Not sure about if the AF would be refunded but my SA just canceled her SPG and amex prorated the annual fee back to her, $16. Winning!
I personally wouldn't cancel right a receiving a bonus but its whatever you feel comfortable with.
I personally wouldn't cancel right a receiving a bonus but its whatever you feel comfortable with.
Apr 5, 2016, 1:30 pm
#39
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: FAT
Programs: AA mm, Hilton Dime, Hyatt Xpl.& PC Plat, Miracle Fruit-su club
Posts: 1,694
I already have the Amex Hilton with no annual fee. Just today, I logged on and found that my Hilton is eligible to upgrade to Surpass card with 100K point bonus after $3k spending. Should I upgrade or should I apply as a new card for the same offer? If I upgrade, is it possible to downgrade in the future since I still want to keep the no annual fee card for the long run? If so, how soon can I downgrade?
Apr 5, 2016, 3:15 pm
#40
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: On strike
Posts: 8,135
Apr 5, 2016, 4:31 pm
#41
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 432
What is the best strategy ? Apply for new card for 100k points and then upgrade the no fee card for another 100k? I'm afraid that by the time I get the first 100k from the new card, the offer to upgrade might go away. Plus, will Amex allow to have 2 surpass cards at the same time or I have to cancel the first card before upgrading the no fee one???
Apr 5, 2016, 7:23 pm
#42
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 109
I could not find a answer to this,
so I currently have the no annual fee version of AMEX Hilton HHonors card, I received the sign-up bonus for this card. I had this card for less than a year, so I have never upgraded this card to surpass card.
Now, can I apply for the surpass card and received the 100K current offer? I never had the surpass card before.
If the surpass card and the no-fee card are considered two different products, then I should be able to receive the 100k sign-up bonus on the surpass card, but I just want to make sure.
Thanks!
so I currently have the no annual fee version of AMEX Hilton HHonors card, I received the sign-up bonus for this card. I had this card for less than a year, so I have never upgraded this card to surpass card.
Now, can I apply for the surpass card and received the 100K current offer? I never had the surpass card before.
If the surpass card and the no-fee card are considered two different products, then I should be able to receive the 100k sign-up bonus on the surpass card, but I just want to make sure.
Thanks!
Last edited by adobe; Apr 5, 2016 at 7:32 pm
Apr 6, 2016, 8:11 am
#43
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Florida
Programs: SPG/Ritz/Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 63
I already have the Amex Hilton with no annual fee. Just today, I logged on and found that my Hilton is eligible to upgrade to Surpass card with 100K point bonus after $3k spending. Should I upgrade or should I apply as a new card for the same offer? If I upgrade, is it possible to downgrade in the future since I still want to keep the no annual fee card for the long run? If so, how soon can I downgrade?
Apr 6, 2016, 3:29 pm
#44
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 91
What is the best strategy ? Apply for new card for 100k points and then upgrade the no fee card for another 100k? I'm afraid that by the time I get the first 100k from the new card, the offer to upgrade might go away. Plus, will Amex allow to have 2 surpass cards at the same time or I have to cancel the first card before upgrading the no fee one???
Last edited by CalvaryMike; Apr 6, 2016 at 3:58 pm
Apr 7, 2016, 8:11 am
#45
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: KEWR
Programs: UA 1K, HH Diamond, SPG/Marriott Gold, Hyatt Plat, National Exec, GE/Nexus
Posts: 501
I could not find a answer to this,
so I currently have the no annual fee version of AMEX Hilton HHonors card, I received the sign-up bonus for this card. I had this card for less than a year, so I have never upgraded this card to surpass card.
Now, can I apply for the surpass card and received the 100K current offer? I never had the surpass card before.
If the surpass card and the no-fee card are considered two different products, then I should be able to receive the 100k sign-up bonus on the surpass card, but I just want to make sure.
Thanks!
so I currently have the no annual fee version of AMEX Hilton HHonors card, I received the sign-up bonus for this card. I had this card for less than a year, so I have never upgraded this card to surpass card.
Now, can I apply for the surpass card and received the 100K current offer? I never had the surpass card before.
If the surpass card and the no-fee card are considered two different products, then I should be able to receive the 100k sign-up bonus on the surpass card, but I just want to make sure.
Thanks!
Once I get the physical card, I'll charge $3k and verify I get the 100k HH points. To be continued ... will report back.