Diamonds are not actually precious to Hilton
#16




Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: I'm From Here
Programs: AC*SE & 2MM/Bonvoy Gold/HHonors Diamond
Posts: 4,658
Doesn't that only apply if you have previously paid in full for the room? If I'm wrong I want to know.
Hotels and other travel companies operate on a similar notion of counting on all that book, don't necessarily show up. It's built into the pricing. Often, you have lower rates for those who book very far in advance because it may be more likely those people don't show up. Sometimes there is a deposit or other fee you get stuck with for not showing up. I didn't know holding empty rooms in case someone shows up was a thing. It blows my mind that a customer with cash in hand would be turned away after midnight for a "person that might come."
Hotels and other travel companies operate on a similar notion of counting on all that book, don't necessarily show up. It's built into the pricing. Often, you have lower rates for those who book very far in advance because it may be more likely those people don't show up. Sometimes there is a deposit or other fee you get stuck with for not showing up. I didn't know holding empty rooms in case someone shows up was a thing. It blows my mind that a customer with cash in hand would be turned away after midnight for a "person that might come."
If OP is Diamond, then Hilton needs to follow procedures
#17
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 3,359
They didn't want to pay the penalty for walking a diamond member. The policy is that "An immediate inconvenience compensation of $200 USD (or local equivalent) cash must be paid to the member." It is my understanding that the immediate cash payment is a penalty that is supposed to discourage the hotel from ever walking a diamond member. Hilton Diamond desk issued me a check after both the diamond desk and I waited for the hotel to send it to me. I'm unsure if that Hampton Inn ever actually paid Hilton for covering the $200 for them.
That said, sometimes Corporate will hand out points as a service recovery gesture if they think the hotel isn't acting appropriately to a situation they created. Since that's subjective, the hotel will not be charged.
Incidents of that nature are noted and included as part of the annual review of each hotel. A single instance wouldn't mean anything. But, multiple instances of lack of response to legitimate guest concerns could help push a hotel out of the chain. In my experience, it would be extremely odd for a hotel to have poor service recovery responses and no other problems. Basically, if a hotel refuses to address guest complaints, they probably are deficient in many other areas. Multiple problems makes it much easier for a hotel to get the boot from the chain.
#18




Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: OC, CA
Programs: AA EXP, 2MM, HH Diamond
Posts: 850
Doesn't that only apply if you have previously paid in full for the room? If I'm wrong I want to know.
Hotels and other travel companies operate on a similar notion of counting on all that book, don't necessarily show up. It's built into the pricing. Often, you have lower rates for those who book very far in advance because it may be more likely those people don't show up. Sometimes there is a deposit or other fee you get stuck with for not showing up. I didn't know holding empty rooms in case someone shows up was a thing. It blows my mind that a customer with cash in hand would be turned away after midnight for a "person that might come."
Hotels and other travel companies operate on a similar notion of counting on all that book, don't necessarily show up. It's built into the pricing. Often, you have lower rates for those who book very far in advance because it may be more likely those people don't show up. Sometimes there is a deposit or other fee you get stuck with for not showing up. I didn't know holding empty rooms in case someone shows up was a thing. It blows my mind that a customer with cash in hand would be turned away after midnight for a "person that might come."
#19


Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: QF Gold LTG (ow Saph), HHon Silver, Marriot Gold
Posts: 3,002
Weather issues major airports, you can guarantee someone is going to be put out, you just got to hope it isnt you.
Not clear what the time period was between booking being taken, and the cancellation call, but as others have said I would have gone to the hotel and discussed it (politely with the manager)
Quite possibly an airline had activated a bulk block and they had bookings clash, but you're much harder to turn away when at the hotel in person.
Worst case you could have pushed for a bunk bed in the hotel gym or something..
Not clear what the time period was between booking being taken, and the cancellation call, but as others have said I would have gone to the hotel and discussed it (politely with the manager)
Quite possibly an airline had activated a bulk block and they had bookings clash, but you're much harder to turn away when at the hotel in person.
Worst case you could have pushed for a bunk bed in the hotel gym or something..
#20


Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SE ASIA
Programs: SQ KF GO, OZ GO, QR PC PLAT, TG ROP SL, LCAH SL, IHG SPIRE, Marriott BONVOY GO, HILTON GO
Posts: 650
I read an article somewhere but I couldn't find it anymore - about how Hilton is on the lookout for more Silver & Gold members to its program
Found this article tho' & it says the same thing ..
"Its easy for hotel chains to spend time and resources on their highest loyalty spenders. But there is plenty of money to be had at the other end of the tier as well."
https://skift.com/2019/08/01/hilton-...yalty-members/
Found this article tho' & it says the same thing ..
"Its easy for hotel chains to spend time and resources on their highest loyalty spenders. But there is plenty of money to be had at the other end of the tier as well."
https://skift.com/2019/08/01/hilton-...yalty-members/
#21




Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Indianapolis
Programs: Hilton-Diamond Lifetime Platinum AA UA, WN-CP, SPG Gold.
Posts: 7,385
I am HH Diamond,
Recently arrived ATH, early arrival , they gave me a room,, even free breakfast, was planning on securing luggage, and touring the area,
Hilton was great,
Last week at Marriott property, sign on the water bottle $5.00, breakfast nice, but nothing like Hilton,,
Recently arrived ATH, early arrival , they gave me a room,, even free breakfast, was planning on securing luggage, and touring the area,
Hilton was great,
Last week at Marriott property, sign on the water bottle $5.00, breakfast nice, but nothing like Hilton,,
#22
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 15,829
My recent conversation with an idiot clerk in a similar conversation, "so you are telling me that of 6000 properties worldwide in the Hilton related portfolio, you have decided to do this to me, a Lifetime Diamond, this makes you unique among all properties" Can I please have you full name and that of your GM, so that I can pass this along to corporate?" At which point he went away, came back with a night manager who apologized profusely, and assured me that this guy was a newbie, who did not know any better........and I should be very happy with the gigantic suite that they were now giving me......
#23




Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: NW London and NW Sydney
Programs: BA Diamond, Hilton Bronze, A3 Diamond, IHG *G
Posts: 7,089
There are too many Diamonds as well.
As has been said many times on this forum no individual regardless of status is precious to Hilton. Even someone like Phil the Flyer who spent 12 years in a Hilton might get walked in the OP's situation.
Every hotel is different (even though many Hamptons are almost exact replicas of each other) and although there are brand standards, hotels are managed by different people and companies which interpret the standards differently. It isn't like all Hilton employees must be trained at a centralized Hilton facility before they can start work.
Particular guests, especially those who stay many times at a single hotel, become precious to that hotel, but it doesn't mean that those guests will be precious to another Hilton they have never stayed in.
I get welcome letters saying how important I am at many Hiltons - but these are mass produced and given to several guests every night. Anyway, I don't want to be important - I just want a room (preferably upgraded but no big deal if not) and the published benefits of being Diamond, but of course it is nice if hotels go above and beyond.
As has been said many times on this forum no individual regardless of status is precious to Hilton. Even someone like Phil the Flyer who spent 12 years in a Hilton might get walked in the OP's situation.
Every hotel is different (even though many Hamptons are almost exact replicas of each other) and although there are brand standards, hotels are managed by different people and companies which interpret the standards differently. It isn't like all Hilton employees must be trained at a centralized Hilton facility before they can start work.
Particular guests, especially those who stay many times at a single hotel, become precious to that hotel, but it doesn't mean that those guests will be precious to another Hilton they have never stayed in.
I get welcome letters saying how important I am at many Hiltons - but these are mass produced and given to several guests every night. Anyway, I don't want to be important - I just want a room (preferably upgraded but no big deal if not) and the published benefits of being Diamond, but of course it is nice if hotels go above and beyond.

