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Old Sep 15, 2019 | 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Super Mario
Doesn't that only apply if you have previously paid in full for the room? If I'm wrong I want to know.

Hotels and other travel companies operate on a similar notion of counting on all that book, don't necessarily show up. It's built into the pricing. Often, you have lower rates for those who book very far in advance because it may be more likely those people don't show up. Sometimes there is a deposit or other fee you get stuck with for not showing up. I didn't know holding empty rooms in case someone shows up was a thing. It blows my mind that a customer with cash in hand would be turned away after midnight for a "person that might come."
I almost never pre-pay for a room. The purpose of a credit card against the room is that the hotel can recoup the loss if the guest is a no show. However, if you reserve a room with a CC and they give it away to someone else, they are walking you. Regardless if it is 11pm or 1am

If OP is Diamond, then Hilton needs to follow procedures
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Old Sep 15, 2019 | 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by geekboy
They didn't want to pay the penalty for walking a diamond member. The policy is that "An immediate inconvenience compensation of $200 USD (or local equivalent) cash must be paid to the member." It is my understanding that the immediate cash payment is a penalty that is supposed to discourage the hotel from ever walking a diamond member. Hilton Diamond desk issued me a check after both the diamond desk and I waited for the hotel to send it to me. I'm unsure if that Hampton Inn ever actually paid Hilton for covering the $200 for them.
While I've never worked at a Hilton-branded property, every other brand in which I worked had accounting mechanisms to ensure that Corporate gets reimbursed for these types of payouts. Anything penalty shown in the Terms and Conditions will be paid by the hotel in one manner or another.

That said, sometimes Corporate will hand out points as a service recovery gesture if they think the hotel isn't acting appropriately to a situation they created. Since that's subjective, the hotel will not be charged.

Incidents of that nature are noted and included as part of the annual review of each hotel. A single instance wouldn't mean anything. But, multiple instances of lack of response to legitimate guest concerns could help push a hotel out of the chain. In my experience, it would be extremely odd for a hotel to have poor service recovery responses and no other problems. Basically, if a hotel refuses to address guest complaints, they probably are deficient in many other areas. Multiple problems makes it much easier for a hotel to get the boot from the chain.
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Old Sep 15, 2019 | 11:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Super Mario
Doesn't that only apply if you have previously paid in full for the room? If I'm wrong I want to know.

Hotels and other travel companies operate on a similar notion of counting on all that book, don't necessarily show up. It's built into the pricing. Often, you have lower rates for those who book very far in advance because it may be more likely those people don't show up. Sometimes there is a deposit or other fee you get stuck with for not showing up. I didn't know holding empty rooms in case someone shows up was a thing. It blows my mind that a customer with cash in hand would be turned away after midnight for a "person that might come."
Holding an empty room in case someone with a reservation shows up is the essential definition of guaranteed reservation. It is not at all unusual for people to show up to a hotel very, very late; I have arrived at 6am the next day. And given that most hotels now have a deadline for cancelling a reservation, you effectively are paying in full even if you dont show up.
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 1:01 am
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Weather issues major airports, you can guarantee someone is going to be put out, you just got to hope it isnt you.

Not clear what the time period was between booking being taken, and the cancellation call, but as others have said I would have gone to the hotel and discussed it (politely with the manager)
Quite possibly an airline had activated a bulk block and they had bookings clash, but you're much harder to turn away when at the hotel in person.

Worst case you could have pushed for a bunk bed in the hotel gym or something..
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 10:10 am
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Wink Too many darn low tier members!

I read an article somewhere but I couldn't find it anymore - about how Hilton is on the lookout for more Silver & Gold members to its program

Found this article tho' & it says the same thing ..

"Its easy for hotel chains to spend time and resources on their highest loyalty spenders. But there is plenty of money to be had at the other end of the tier as well."

https://skift.com/2019/08/01/hilton-...yalty-members/
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 10:42 am
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I am HH Diamond,

Recently arrived ATH, early arrival , they gave me a room,, even free breakfast, was planning on securing luggage, and touring the area,

Hilton was great,

Last week at Marriott property, sign on the water bottle $5.00, breakfast nice, but nothing like Hilton,,
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 3:20 pm
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My recent conversation with an idiot clerk in a similar conversation, "so you are telling me that of 6000 properties worldwide in the Hilton related portfolio, you have decided to do this to me, a Lifetime Diamond, this makes you unique among all properties" Can I please have you full name and that of your GM, so that I can pass this along to corporate?" At which point he went away, came back with a night manager who apologized profusely, and assured me that this guy was a newbie, who did not know any better........and I should be very happy with the gigantic suite that they were now giving me......
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 3:04 am
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Originally Posted by kaffir76
Too many darn low tier members!
There are too many Diamonds as well.

As has been said many times on this forum no individual regardless of status is precious to Hilton. Even someone like Phil the Flyer who spent 12 years in a Hilton might get walked in the OP's situation.

Every hotel is different (even though many Hamptons are almost exact replicas of each other) and although there are brand standards, hotels are managed by different people and companies which interpret the standards differently. It isn't like all Hilton employees must be trained at a centralized Hilton facility before they can start work.

Particular guests, especially those who stay many times at a single hotel, become precious to that hotel, but it doesn't mean that those guests will be precious to another Hilton they have never stayed in.

I get welcome letters saying how important I am at many Hiltons - but these are mass produced and given to several guests every night. Anyway, I don't want to be important - I just want a room (preferably upgraded but no big deal if not) and the published benefits of being Diamond, but of course it is nice if hotels go above and beyond.
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