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Miesque Feb 12, 2015 11:32 am


Originally Posted by DevilDawg1960 (Post 24339431)
Complete incompetence at HH about this. Per the suggestion of another poster I sent this email to HH:

I am trying to determine how many paid nights I have toward the 1000 required for lifetime diamond status. I called the Diamond Desk and they were unable to provide. Another HH member suggested that I email this address as they had been provided the answer within an hour.

Can you provide me with the # of paid nights I have?"

This is the response I got:
Dear XXXXXXXX,

Thank you for your inquiry regarding Lifetime Diamond Status. We appreciate you taking the time to contact us.

Our records indicate that your account has registered xxxx total nights since your enrollment on March 31, 1994.

To achieve Lifetime Diamond Status, you must have maintained Diamond Status for at least 10 years (non-consecutive) and completed 1,000 paid nights. The 1,000 paid nights are over the life of the HHonors account, not only the years the Member achieved Diamond status.

If there is anything else we can assist you with, please do not hesitate to contact us. For immediate assistance, please click on the link below for the contact number of the Hilton Worldwide Service Center location nearest you.

http://hhonors3.hilton.com/en/support/index.html

Best regards,

XXXXXXXXX
Diamond Coordinator
Customer Care Email Department
Hilton Reservations and Customer Care
www.hiltonworldwide.com

How are we doing?

Hilton Worldwide strives to offer the world’s best customer service in every interaction. We would love to hear your thoughts on your experience with the last email representative to assist you. Please click on the below survey link to be redirected to a new survey tool geared towards improving the service our email team provides:
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I inquired as to what my lifetime stays were and when I became gold and Diamond and I got an e-mail back that they needed to open a case for to figure out my lifetime stats and to allow 7-10 business days for a response.

Tomphot Feb 12, 2015 11:35 am


Originally Posted by DevilDawg1960 (Post 24339556)
My loyalty is being tested.

990 Total nights (I thought I had over 1000 but was mistaken)
21 consecutive years as a Diamond Member

Not good enough for Lifetime Diamond Status

Too good for the 100,000 bonus points and 2x/3x promotion

While Hilton is handing out rewards nothing for me and many, what I would consider extremely loyal, customers.

My brother-in-law has been trying to get me to convert to Marriott for years. He called to ask me how I made out with Hilton's new promotions and got a great laugh when I told him that he was right - I should have made the switch over a decade ago. The good news is I have another 10 years of heavy travel so can make LT status in Marriot if I choose. The fact that Hilton cannot even tell me how many PAID nights I have out of the 990 total is mind boggling. Thought about switching my stays the next three weeks in NYC, Berlin, and Istanbul but decided to stay put for the moment.

Rant over - I feel a little better


/\ - This - except I'm at 910 nights.

HawkeyeFlyer Feb 12, 2015 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by DevilDawg1960 (Post 24339556)
My loyalty is being tested.

990 Total nights (I thought I had over 1000 but was mistaken)
21 consecutive years as a Diamond Member

Not good enough for Lifetime Diamond Status

Too good for the 100,000 bonus points and 2x/3x promotion

While Hilton is handing out rewards nothing for me and many, what I would consider extremely loyal, customers.

My brother-in-law has been trying to get me to convert to Marriott for years. He called to ask me how I made out with Hilton's new promotions and got a great laugh when I told him that he was right - I should have made the switch over a decade ago. The good news is I have another 10 years of heavy travel so can make LT status in Marriot if I choose. The fact that Hilton cannot even tell me how many PAID nights I have out of the 990 total is mind boggling. Thought about switching my stays the next three weeks in NYC, Berlin, and Istanbul but decided to stay put for the moment.

Rant over - I feel a little better


Sad truth is you are to close to not keep going and get the LTD. They know it so probably not worried about you. Horrible customer loyalty program issues

HawkeyeFlyer Feb 12, 2015 12:20 pm


Originally Posted by Tomphot (Post 24339596)
/\ - This - except I'm at 910 nights.

They got you as well. You are too deep in right now to walk so why bother offering you anything. Awful in my mind

NorthOrSouth Feb 12, 2015 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by DevilDawg1960 (Post 24339431)
Complete incompetence at HH about this. Per the suggestion of another poster I sent this email to HH:

I am trying to determine how many paid nights I have toward the 1000 required for lifetime diamond status. I called the Diamond Desk and they were unable to provide. Another HH member suggested that I email this address as they had been provided the answer within an hour.
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I sent a similar email. I got the response back that I needed to email them my PIN before they could tell me anything.....

cop35758 Feb 12, 2015 12:40 pm

In the same boat. Felt enough was enough and switching my 130 nights a year to Marriott starting this year.

Alex_I Feb 12, 2015 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by cop35758 (Post 24340079)
In the same boat. Felt enough was enough and switching my 130 nights a year to Marriott starting this year.

- I usually stay 60-65 nights with SPG and 30-33 stays with HHonors just to maintain Diamond. I find SPG a better program overall from Elite benefits to service and hotels in places I like to visit.
Right now I have about 500 nights with HHonors but > 500 nights with SPG (and 3 years to go for Lifetime PLT with SPG).
There is no way I am interested in spending 1.5 years of my life in HHonors properties to get to 1000 nights. I would rater stay with Starwood instead.

HawkeyeFlyer Feb 12, 2015 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by Alex_I (Post 24340173)
- I usually stay 60-65 nights with SPG and 30-33 stays with HHonors just to maintain Diamond. I find SPG a better program overall from Elite benefits to service and hotels in places I like to visit.
Right now I have about 500 nights with HHonors but > 500 nights with SPG (and 3 years to go for Lifetime PLT with SPG).
There is no way I am interested in spending 1.5 years of my life in HHonors properties to get to 1000 nights. I would rater stay with Starwood instead.

Can not blame you for that.

Did you get offered any targeted promotions?

Chang11 Feb 12, 2015 1:12 pm

I've been Diamond for 21 consecutive years and did not qualify for Lifetime Diamond or the 100,000 points promotion.

prushing Feb 12, 2015 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by Miesque (Post 24339581)
I inquired as to what my lifetime stays were and when I became gold and Diamond and I got an e-mail back that they needed to open a case for to figure out my lifetime stats and to allow 7-10 business days for a response.

same for me

Alex_I Feb 12, 2015 2:22 pm


Originally Posted by ChicagoPlanesTrains (Post 24333048)
*See full terms & conditions here. (http://hhonors3.hilton.com/en/promot...ond/terms.html)

Lifetime Diamond Status will be awarded to select HHonors members, who as of December 31st, 2014 have earned Diamond Status for at least 10 years (non-consecutive) and who have completed stays totaling at least 1,000 paid nights pursuant to the standard HHonors Terms & Conditions. Once earned, standard HHonors Terms & Conditions apply. Lifetime Diamond Status is granted at the discretion of HHonors Worldwide, LLC and may be ended, or amended with or without notice or compensation, at HHonors’ sole discretion

- Well, the key here is the statement about "who as of December 31st, 2014". This means that the Lifetime Diamond Status will be awarded only to those individuals. Nowhere it says that it will be awarded at a future date to someone who achieves 1000 paid nights and 10 years as Diamond. So, if you are 999 nights as of Dec. 31, 2014, you could be out of luck regardless how many times you will be staying with HHonors in the future.

Spock Seat Feb 12, 2015 2:24 pm

Does a leap year count as an extra night toward that 1000 nights? Hilton should just bring back the fixed miles for double dipping. I'm just 5 years Diamond, dropping to Gold soon.

Lifetime Diamond. Ridiculous.

Tomphot Feb 12, 2015 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by Alex_I (Post 24340680)
- Well, the key here is the statement about "who as of December 31st, 2014". This means that the Lifetime Diamond Status will be awarded only to those individuals. Nowhere it says that it will be awarded at a future date to someone who achieves 1000 paid nights and 10 years as Diamond. So, if you are 999 nights as of Dec. 31, 2014, you could be out of luck regardless how many times you will be staying with HHonors in the future.

Erin also said this............

Members that meet Lifetime Diamond Status criteria in the middle of the year will receive Lifetime Diamond Status at the beginning of the following year.

Please note that we are in early stages of this benefit, which means that elements of this offering may evolve and may change over time. As I hear of any updates, I will be sure to share those here.

As always, your input is truly valued and we welcome your thoughts and feedback during this launch period. We’re here and listening!

Thanks,
Erin
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HawkeyeFlyer Feb 12, 2015 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by Spock Seat (Post 24340689)
Does a leap year count as an extra night toward that 1000 nights? Hilton should just bring back the fixed miles for double dipping. I'm just 5 years Diamond, dropping to Gold soon.

Lifetime Diamond. Ridiculous.

I got it and still feel like it is useless. Just devalues the program even more when you think about it.
They make it so easy for people to qualify for Diamond anyway that getting it year over year is a piece of cake. For god sake they only require a $40k spend on the credit card to get it. The whole program is becoming a joke

PreferBulkhead Feb 12, 2015 2:39 pm

I am within spitting distance of lifetime - so will definitely be working towards it!


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