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I just checked half dozen properties that are of greatest interest to me in Asia and Canada. I noticed points increase at only 1 of those (Tokyo Hilton), although of course this is a small sample size. |
Quick spot check for London, Berlin, Hamburg: the maximum indeed appears to have been increased for numerous properties.
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I would suggest that if you are already redeeming points at the maximum level - you are probably not overly concerned with the "value" of the points
At least as in value defined as using the lowest number of points possible. Value might be better defined by a comparison to the monetary cost of booking the same room at the same time...and by what not paying monetary price allows you to instead use those funds for. And, IMO, "storing" large balances of hotel points is never a good idea. |
Originally Posted by bse118
(Post 31181989)
I would suggest that if you are already redeeming points at the maximum level - you are probably not overly concerned with the "value" of the points
At least as in value defined as using the lowest number of points possible. Value might be better defined by a comparison to the monetary cost of booking the same room at the same time...and by what not paying monetary price allows you to instead use those funds for. And, IMO, "storing" large balances of hotel points is never a good idea. |
The concept isn't "news".
IMO if you want to draw attention to the matter you need to be specific about which hotels now cost more. It's relatively easy to keep track of the Conrad Maldives at 95K and the former sweetspots at 5-10K that are rapidly being devalued to 20K and higher. But a vague "examining several cities" doesn't help anybody. So if you just want to rant that's your own business. If you want to help other people you need to be specific about which hotels have definitely blown though their former cap. Otherwise Hilton win the day with their "people won't really notice"... |
Example
Hilton Tokyo: 60k -> 70k |
DT Wroclaw now 30k from 20k. Far beyond the typical €60 I often pay to stay there. Hilton Warsaw now 50k. Vienna has lost its 10k hotel, now the HGI South is 20k. So the sweet spots are once again being culled as we move to the fixed value of a point. |
The Casa Marina in Key West FL which I booked for 80K points yesterday is 90K points today.
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The inevitable consequence of 160,000 points sales for $800 and welcome bonuses for several credit cards totaling over 300,000 points as well as double points on stays and generous points on everyday spend. |
Originally Posted by hugolover
(Post 31182081)
DT Wroclaw now 30k from 20k. Far beyond the typical €60 I often pay to stay there. Hilton Warsaw now 50k. So the sweet spots are once again being culled as we move to the fixed value of a point. So, I won't say it's increase ,it's more dynamic. |
Sheesh. In my case, a 25% devaluation - from 40k to 50k per night. I just love bait and switch.
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Originally Posted by Fly2Where
(Post 31182429)
To balance out, the dates I search in 2020 weekend, DT Warsaw was dropped to 14K, and Hilton Warsaw dropped to 24K.
So, I won't say it's increase ,it's more dynamic. I’ve seen DT Warsaw as low as 12k. Not a surprise when rates can be as low as €30. And the Hilton also with such numbers because based on the new system even at 40k or 30k it was too high in points on some dates. Hence it’s incorrect to say it hasn’t increased. The new upper limit is 50k for the Hilton. A truly comical rate for that hotel in a city like Warsaw. Its increased. |
Originally Posted by hugolover
(Post 31182483)
That’s not new. It’s an increase. I’ve seen DT Warsaw as low as 12k. Not a surprise when rates can be as low as €30. And the Hilton also with such numbers because based on the new system even at 40k or 30k it was too high in points on some dates. Hence it’s incorrect to say it hasn’t increased. The new upper limit is 50k for the Hilton. A truly comical rate for that hotel in a city like Warsaw. Its increased. |
Happy to have your agreement on this matter.
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Are companies required to inform you when the hotels are being raised in price with cash rates? So what makes you think they need to do this with points? Do you think that point prices should never go up in price? Is it because you talked about it with a few dozen people on the internet?
News flash. High-demand hotels, in a strong economy, have gone up in price. Sure it sucks, and thanks for letting us know. No need for all of the outrage and claims of bait and switch. |
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