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The sneaky devaluation roll out continues: today HGI Singapore went from 20k to 30k, a shocking 50% increase for a property where cash rates average U$100.
If you haven't yet, I recommend you lock in points rates for those properties where the increase hasn't happened yet. |
Originally Posted by antebellum
(Post 31187370)
I certainly know Standard Room Rewards maxes out at 95k, but the problem is, right now I've seen more surge pricing (aka "Premium Room Rewards") dates in the list of hotels I gave, than even last year.
Still, points redemption right now are going absolutely nuts. :mad: |
Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 31188155)
That's not surge pricing. That is a higher category of room pricing.
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Originally Posted by Adelphos
(Post 31188178)
While antebellum is mixing up standard room pricing vs premium room pricing, it is notable if standard rooms are simply less available than they used to be (though there doesn't seem to be a way to confirm if that is true)
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Originally Posted by hedoman
(Post 31186809)
I see they have upped the bonus points offering on AMEX cards. 150,000 is today's offering for Aspire card.
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Hampton Inn & Suites Bakersfield/Hwy 58, CA was in my radar for a road trip this summer. It was 10,000 points but I didn’t pull the trigger. Now it is increased to 20,000 points. Hilton sucks.
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Originally Posted by hedoman
(Post 31185701)
Registered Aspire cad yesterday for the 120,000 bonus points. Haven't charged anything and leaning towards not. To me, 120,000 points is now about 75,000. Not the same deal.
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Originally Posted by hoxuantu
(Post 31188288)
Hampton Inn & Suites Bakersfield/Hwy 58, CA was in my radar for a road trip this summer. It was 10,000 points but I didn’t pull the trigger. Now it is increased to 20,000 points. Hilton sucks.
My research shows 27 of 42 hotels in USA that were 10,000 points are now 20,000 points. 27 of 42 Hilton Honors 10,000 points hotels in USA went to 20,000 this week |
Appears that almost all NYC properties haven't jumped in max points rate... (yet). I've got a trip in November and have been monitoring the rates for a little while now. Pretty much all properties have been stuck at the maximum redemption rate (70k, 80k, 95k) for all nights, even though the cash rate varies wildly during my stay. NYC has always had pretty poor redemption rates, but if they tack another 10k on per night that would just about make HH points useless. Guess I better get something on the books to burn a pile of points.
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Originally Posted by RafKa
(Post 31187482)
If you haven't yet, I recommend you lock in points rates for those properties where the increase hasn't happened yet.
The reality is Hilton doesn't have (public) categories or an award chart. Therefore, Hilton isn't going to announce category changes for properties (which is what this looks suspiciously like) in advance. No matter how anyone feels about it, that appears to be the reality of the situation. |
Originally Posted by craigthemif
(Post 31184068)
You are missing something... (I'm not saying that to be argumentative or dismissive)
I don't doubt that many hotel choices are made due to location, but it is completely impossible for Hilton to have precisely the perfect location in every single place that a traveller visits. So you don't choose to be loyal TO A CHAIN based on location, you choose based on other factors. And if you choose Hilton Honors based on the location of one or two specific hotels, then you are indeed missing something... |
Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
(Post 31188419)
To circle back to the original point, that is why you KEEP the Hilton credit card in a devaluation environment: on those occasions where Hilton is the best choice for location, pricing, services, you get useful elite status WITHOUT loyalty. At this point you treat the points like Venezuelan currency- spend as soon as you can get something useful out of it, even if it’s just a night at a convenient Hampton inn. |
Originally Posted by Adelphos
(Post 31188621)
It will be a far bigger deal if and when Hilton devalues the credit cards (by either removing the status, reducing how many points you can earn, introducing new levels of status only attainable through stays, etc). Hilton points are by far the easiest to earn (they are regularly sold for $0.005 cents each, the credit cards earn points at the highest rate, etc) and should be redeemed frequently.
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Originally Posted by ankomonkey
(Post 31188699)
Spare a thought for those of us outside the US who don't have access to these generous credit cards. Devaluations hit us pretty hard :(
I decided I was going to go over to hotels.com as a primary vehicle for booking hotels some time ago, and let Hilton/Marriott/IHG/Hyatt points accumulate very tactically/burn often. I've been born out by that: most of the hotels in those chains I've redeemed in in the past five years have all bumped their points required, sometimes by 33-50%. In that kind of environment, brand loyalty where you chase after points for aspirational travel is for suckers. You might as well be collecting Venezuelan bolivars as Hilton/Hyatt/Marriott/IHG. I haven't noticed 33-50% inflation in US or GB currency like that, so I decided that what is effectively a cash rebate for spend (hotels.com) worked OK. |
Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
(Post 31189064)
I decided I was going to go over to hotels.com as a primary vehicle for booking hotels some time ago, and let Hilton/Marriott/IHG/Hyatt points accumulate very tactically/burn often. I've been born out by that: most of the hotels in those chains I've redeemed in in the past five years have all bumped their points required, sometimes by 33-50%. In that kind of environment, brand loyalty where you chase after points for aspirational travel is for suckers. You might as well be collecting Venezuelan bolivars as Hilton/Hyatt/Marriott/IHG. I haven't noticed 33-50% inflation in US or GB currency like that, so I decided that what is effectively a cash rebate for spend (hotels.com) worked OK.
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