Consolidated "Points & Elite Benefits When Booking Through Third-Party?" thread
#106
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Back to Florida...... bye London
Programs: Hilton, AA,, Delta
Posts: 5,149
I know what an "opaque" site is, but I'm not really sure I understand about "third party website bookings (irresprective of rate paid)" as it relates to getting my Hilton points. .
If AA.com has a miles bonus for booking a hotel room through them, will I still get my Hilton points for that room?
If I just use AAA.com, will I still get my Hilton points for that room?
If I use my membership warehouse club site, will I still get my Hilton points for that room?
If I book through YahooTravel, will I still get my Hilton points for that room?
If I use TripAdvisor to read the reviews and then book through their search utilizing multiple sites, will I still get my Hilton points?
Or, in order to get my Hilton points, does everything have to be booked through Hilton.com?
If AA.com has a miles bonus for booking a hotel room through them, will I still get my Hilton points for that room?
If I just use AAA.com, will I still get my Hilton points for that room?
If I use my membership warehouse club site, will I still get my Hilton points for that room?
If I book through YahooTravel, will I still get my Hilton points for that room?
If I use TripAdvisor to read the reviews and then book through their search utilizing multiple sites, will I still get my Hilton points?
Or, in order to get my Hilton points, does everything have to be booked through Hilton.com?
#107
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Seattle
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 221
It's my understanding that any reservation booked through Expedia, Orbitz, TripAdvisor, AAA, Costco, etc. would not qualify for points or stay credit. You would, however, receive any HHonors perks you are entitled to, such as free internet, breakfast, etc. You need to book through an official Hilton site to get the points and stay credit.
#108
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Capetown
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Plat, IHG and Hilton Diamond, LH SEN, BA Gold
Posts: 10,170
It's my understanding that any reservation booked through Expedia, Orbitz, TripAdvisor, AAA, Costco, etc. would not qualify for points or stay credit. You would, however, receive any HHonors perks you are entitled to, such as free internet, breakfast, etc. You need to book through an official Hilton site to get the points and stay credit.
Thank you very much
#109
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Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: ORD/MDW
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"A "stay" is defined as the total number of consecutive nights spent at the same hotel, whether or not a guest checks out and checks back in again. The term “stay” under these Terms and Conditions does not include any stays of the following nature: wholesale/tour operator packages; contracted airline crew rates; travel industry rates (including but not limited to travel agent discount rates); complimentary or barter rooms; Reward Stays; NET Group rates; Series Group or IT Group rates; contracted Entertainment or Encore rates; third party websites bookings (irrespective of rate paid); and "opaque" channel bookings where the brand is unknown at the time of purchase. HHonors points may not be earned for ineligible stays or during ineligible stays, including without limitation, folio charges incurred during ineligible stays."
If you got points from an Expedia stay you were lucky.
#110
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Location: Capetown
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Plat, IHG and Hilton Diamond, LH SEN, BA Gold
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As the the corporate booking engine of one of my main clients uses expedia I am a bit amazed - I get points all the time as long as the rate is not a special expedia rate. And the rate code in the booking (and to be found in my HH profile) is COR17, the same rate code that appears if I book directly via HH.
#111
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: India
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It's my understanding that any reservation booked through Expedia, Orbitz, TripAdvisor, AAA, Costco, etc. would not qualify for points or stay credit. You would, however, receive any HHonors perks you are entitled to, such as free internet, breakfast, etc. You need to book through an official Hilton site to get the points and stay credit.
#112
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DFW
Programs: AS, BA, AA
Posts: 3,670
Ugh. I had a bad experience when I booked with what I thought was a 'travel agent', but Hilton called it a third-party booking, and I spent a long time on the phone with Hilton trying to sort it out. My confusion happened because I was trying to book a rate that was listed on both the third-party site and the Hilton website as the "Advance payment rate". So no red flags went off when I was expected to pre-pay for the room.
The bottom line is: anything you book on a Hilton Website or through a 'real travel agent' (i.e. the kind who charges fees and make you a reservation, not a site that pre-sells you a room), you will get points and credit for the stays. Anyone else, no. Rule of thumb: Anything where you pay in advance to a booking site will not count. Stays where Hilton charges the rate to your credit card when you check out do count.
When you go to AA.com and book a room under what appears to be a normal, non-opaque rate, what usually happens in the background is that Hilton sold a block of rooms to AA at a discount, and AA sold them to you at the nominal price. This is considered 'third party' by Hilton.
If you get points for a stay booked on a 'corporate booking engine' that happens to use Expedia, I would guess that somehow the corporation is using Expedia in a "real travel agent" capacity. Are these rooms pre-paid directly to Expedia, or is your card charged by Hilton when you check out?
The bottom line is: anything you book on a Hilton Website or through a 'real travel agent' (i.e. the kind who charges fees and make you a reservation, not a site that pre-sells you a room), you will get points and credit for the stays. Anyone else, no. Rule of thumb: Anything where you pay in advance to a booking site will not count. Stays where Hilton charges the rate to your credit card when you check out do count.
When you go to AA.com and book a room under what appears to be a normal, non-opaque rate, what usually happens in the background is that Hilton sold a block of rooms to AA at a discount, and AA sold them to you at the nominal price. This is considered 'third party' by Hilton.
As the the corporate booking engine of one of my main clients uses expedia I am a bit amazed - I get points all the time as long as the rate is not a special expedia rate. And the rate code in the booking (and to be found in my HH profile) is COR17, the same rate code that appears if I book directly via HH.
Last edited by janetdoe; Aug 18, 2010 at 9:48 am
#113
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Seattle
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 221
opaque site bookings - no points, no perks
third party site bookings - no points, but you do get the perks
Maybe someone else knows where to find this?
#114
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: MKE
Programs: DL-MM-Diamond HH-Diamond
Posts: 3,218
When I checked in to my hotel this evening, the woman ahead of me reminding the desk clerk to put in her HH number, and he said I'm sorry this is a third party booking and does not qualify. She said, I didn't know that, isn't there anything you can do, he said it is a very strict policy and I'm sorry I cant help you but If you call Hilton, they are the only ones that can reverse it.
#115
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If you get points for a stay booked on a 'corporate booking engine' that happens to use Expedia, I would guess that somehow the corporation is using Expedia in a "real travel agent" capacity. Are these rooms pre-paid directly to Expedia, or is your card charged by Hilton when you check out?
#116
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: ORD, HKG
Programs: UA*G, AA Emerald, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt globalist
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The only way you get full benefit is booked thru hilton.com or call Hilton's reservation number.
Last edited by ORDnHKG; Aug 19, 2010 at 12:01 am
#117
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: Migros Cumulus Platinum Hero
Posts: 1,628
With most programs (including SPG which you also list in your profile) the bookings that are made through 3rd party booking sites like Expedia, Orbitz, Hotwire, Hotels.com, Priceline, etc. do not earn points because the room rate is actually paid to the 3rd party and not directly to the hotel operator on site. I have had instances where I was attending a convention and the convention travel planner booked the room and I got credit....but I paid the bill at the hotel and not in advance. I think you will be out of luck with all the hotel brands if the room rate is paid to the booking site.
I would expect HHonors at least to give me points for in-house spending @:-)
#118
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This is no longer true. Unfortunately.
#119
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: PH
Programs: CX Marco Polo GR,DL Skymiles, SQ Krisfyer,PH Mabuhay Miles, HH gold, BWR Diamond
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Hilton Honors Elite Benefits When Booking Through Third-Party?
To get the Hilton Honors gold benefits like possible executive floor upgrade, free breakfast, free wifi, do I have to book directly at Hilton's website? what if I book on other travel sites like Expedia, Priceline, Agoda.. etc, will I still get the elite benefits?
I know that some loyalty programs don't credit the points or nights stay if you book at 3rd party site, so I might not get the points and nights stay credit but not sure if HH cuts the elite benefits as well if you book using other sites.
I know that some loyalty programs don't credit the points or nights stay if you book at 3rd party site, so I might not get the points and nights stay credit but not sure if HH cuts the elite benefits as well if you book using other sites.
#120
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London, UK
Programs: HH Gold, BW Diamond, SPG Gold, Kimpton Inner Circle, CC Silver, PC Platinum, BA Bronze
Posts: 71
Others may correct me, but I think Hilton are pretty relaxed on this, I know some hotel groups are strict but from what I've read on the forums HH give you the benefits regardless