Oct 8, 2020, 2:27 pm
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Aloha - as a reminder to all, FT's rules specifically state: "FlyerTalk exists for the discussion of frequent flyer programs and the related travel experience. With the exception of the few areas specifically designated for the discussion of other topics, confine your comments as closely as possible to these topic areas and to the topic of the thread and forum in which you are posting." FlyinHawaiian and I recognize that it is easy to intertwine political commentary with the policies advanced by politicians that affect travel to Hawaii. However, we ask that you keep in mind the nature of this Hawaii forum and focus your attention on the policies and their impact on travel to/from/within Hawaii. Commentary about Hawaii's politicians are off-topic, belong in the OMNI forum, and will be deleted if posted on this thread. We ask for your kokua and cooperation. If you have any questions, please let us know.
Mahalo,
slippahs, Hawaii forum co-moderator
When will Hawaii re-open for tourism?
May 10, 2020, 6:55 pm
#91
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The order requires confinement to quarters, whether a room or condo. Some violators are being arrested. Some shipped back rather than enduring jail.
May 10, 2020, 7:14 pm
#92
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I think there’s some debate about allowed usage of common areas at condos vs hotels. Ko Olina beach villas visitors were using the pools upon arrival and created a stir, not sure how that was resolved.
May 10, 2020, 7:16 pm
#93
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It will interesting to see if/when they differentiate residents from tourists as it relates to the 14-day quarantine. I live here much of the time and own property but still maintain my driver's license in my mainland state. Wondering if proof of property ownership would do? I imagine this stuff is still largely in the works and only time will tell.
Residence is a bit strange to define in the US as there's no mandatory ID or government registry. Some people don't have a drivers licence or state ID card, and others just keep their old out-of-state licences when they move even though they aren't supposed to. And 'official' addresses on ID cards, tax returns, voter registration and other documents don't have to match each other.
May 10, 2020, 7:29 pm
#94
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May 10, 2020, 7:57 pm
#95
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I still think the governor is over-estimating the amount of tourist traffic once the quarantine is lifted. I arrived 3 days prior to the quarantine expecting to be accompanied by others trying to sneak in under the wire..... wow, was I wrong. The plane had 14 people on it.
May 10, 2020, 8:24 pm
#96
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FYI/FWIW, Saturday's data for arrivals into the State of Hawaii - from BIVN:
where:
David
Yesterday, 857 people arrived in Hawaii including 255 visitors and 334 residents. During this same time last year, nearly 30,000 passengers arrived in Hawaii daily, including residents and visitors. The state’s mandatory 14-day self-quarantine started on March 26th for all passengers arriving in Hawaii from out of state. The quarantine order was expanded on April 1st to include interisland travelers. This table shows the number of people who arrived by air from out of state yesterday and does not include interisland travel.
where:
Crew = flight crew members
Intended Resident = people who are moving to Hawaii such as military members and their families, and former residents who intend to live in Hawaii
Resident = people who have a Hawaii ID
Transit = people who are in transit to another location through Hawaii and aren’t leaving the airport
Visitor = people who do not have a Hawaii ID including essential health care workers, essential federal workers, former residents such as mainland college students coming to stay with family, military on temporary assignment, and leisure travelers
Majority of the people who flew to Hawaii yesterday arrived on Oahu. The following tables show what the Oahu visitors indicated as the purpose of their trip and their type of accommodation, and they can choose more than one. This data was collected from the HTA survey on the back of the Hawaii Agriculture Declaration Form. People are not mandated by law to fill out the survey so some are left blank.
Intended Resident = people who are moving to Hawaii such as military members and their families, and former residents who intend to live in Hawaii
Resident = people who have a Hawaii ID
Transit = people who are in transit to another location through Hawaii and aren’t leaving the airport
Visitor = people who do not have a Hawaii ID including essential health care workers, essential federal workers, former residents such as mainland college students coming to stay with family, military on temporary assignment, and leisure travelers
Majority of the people who flew to Hawaii yesterday arrived on Oahu. The following tables show what the Oahu visitors indicated as the purpose of their trip and their type of accommodation, and they can choose more than one. This data was collected from the HTA survey on the back of the Hawaii Agriculture Declaration Form. People are not mandated by law to fill out the survey so some are left blank.
David
May 10, 2020, 8:29 pm
#97
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Are they asking for proof of residence when you arrive (not just proof of where you will stay, and not directed at you, just in general)? You could just 'lose' your drivers license and use your passport as ID when you travel, and 'find' it when you unpack after you arrive. Or just not bring it if you aren't going to drive. Or mail it to yourself in Hawaii before you leave.
Residence is a bit strange to define in the US as there's no mandatory ID or government registry. Some people don't have a drivers licence or state ID card, and others just keep their old out-of-state licences when they move even though they aren't supposed to. And 'official' addresses on ID cards, tax returns, voter registration and other documents don't have to match each other.
Residence is a bit strange to define in the US as there's no mandatory ID or government registry. Some people don't have a drivers licence or state ID card, and others just keep their old out-of-state licences when they move even though they aren't supposed to. And 'official' addresses on ID cards, tax returns, voter registration and other documents don't have to match each other.
The people I've read about getting busted really have been brazen and dumb about it. I'm pretty sure someone could slide in to a private rental and do as they please without getting caught. A lot of the enforcement is put onto the hotel owners, etc. (if there are actually any that are opened).
May 10, 2020, 9:50 pm
#98
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ETA: https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/0...ce-quarantine/
Last edited by 747FC; May 10, 2020 at 10:48 pm Reason: provided article link
May 10, 2020, 10:42 pm
#99
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May 10, 2020, 10:47 pm
#100
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A month ago, hopefully this has been settled. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haw...outputType=amp
Here is the key card access article:
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/0...ce-quarantine/
May 11, 2020, 12:07 pm
#101
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Are they asking for proof of residence when you arrive (not just proof of where you will stay, and not directed at you, just in general)? You could just 'lose' your drivers license and use your passport as ID when you travel, and 'find' it when you unpack after you arrive. Or just not bring it if you aren't going to drive. Or mail it to yourself in Hawaii before you leave.
Residence is a bit strange to define in the US as there's no mandatory ID or government registry. Some people don't have a drivers licence or state ID card, and others just keep their old out-of-state licences when they move even though they aren't supposed to. And 'official' addresses on ID cards, tax returns, voter registration and other documents don't have to match each other.
Residence is a bit strange to define in the US as there's no mandatory ID or government registry. Some people don't have a drivers licence or state ID card, and others just keep their old out-of-state licences when they move even though they aren't supposed to. And 'official' addresses on ID cards, tax returns, voter registration and other documents don't have to match each other.
If you are a Hawaii resident, the place of quarantine should match your driver license, and they check for this. There are two Sheriff officers on the spot that will enforce any non-compliance or irregular issues. If you are a visitor, they will make sure you have a return ticket back home, and check on your hotel reservation by calling the hotel. All phone numbers will be verified on the spot. Both residents and visitors will get a phone call sometime after arrival.
If information don't match, or there are issues, expect to be on the next return flight.
May 11, 2020, 12:18 pm
#102
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May 11, 2020, 1:29 pm
#104
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Sorry, that won't work with the procedures after deplaning into HNL.
If you are a Hawaii resident, the place of quarantine should match your driver license, and they check for this. There are two Sheriff officers on the spot that will enforce any non-compliance or irregular issues. If you are a visitor, they will make sure you have a return ticket back home, and check on your hotel reservation by calling the hotel. All phone numbers will be verified on the spot. Both residents and visitors will get a phone call sometime after arrival.
If information don't match, or there are issues, expect to be on the next return flight.
If you are a Hawaii resident, the place of quarantine should match your driver license, and they check for this. There are two Sheriff officers on the spot that will enforce any non-compliance or irregular issues. If you are a visitor, they will make sure you have a return ticket back home, and check on your hotel reservation by calling the hotel. All phone numbers will be verified on the spot. Both residents and visitors will get a phone call sometime after arrival.
If information don't match, or there are issues, expect to be on the next return flight.
May 11, 2020, 2:23 pm
#105
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I am starting to see/hear talk of testing people at airports and getting a, "clean health passport" of sorts but it's still just an idea at this point (seems to me this should have been in the works since the start but what do I know?). Unfortunately, antibody testing (to determine who has had the virus and is presumed immune) seems to be fairly inaccurate. At the very soonest, I could see the quarantine being lifted when it's possible to test everyone arriving on the islands for current infection.