Oct 8, 2020, 2:27 pm
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Aloha - as a reminder to all, FT's rules specifically state: "FlyerTalk exists for the discussion of frequent flyer programs and the related travel experience. With the exception of the few areas specifically designated for the discussion of other topics, confine your comments as closely as possible to these topic areas and to the topic of the thread and forum in which you are posting." FlyinHawaiian and I recognize that it is easy to intertwine political commentary with the policies advanced by politicians that affect travel to Hawaii. However, we ask that you keep in mind the nature of this Hawaii forum and focus your attention on the policies and their impact on travel to/from/within Hawaii. Commentary about Hawaii's politicians are off-topic, belong in the OMNI forum, and will be deleted if posted on this thread. We ask for your kokua and cooperation. If you have any questions, please let us know.
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When will Hawaii re-open for tourism?
Apr 30, 2020, 2:41 am
#16
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In my book having a few more things open, and having no/low tourists for a while would be pretty nice for a bit. Economically unsustainable, however, past a few more bailed-out months. But the windward side of O’ahu is pretty pleasant at the moment, especially with the parks open again, I gotta say.
Apr 30, 2020, 11:17 am
#17
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If Hawaii has zero cases of Covid-19 for an extended period, it can declare itself clear. They are possibly less than a month away from that point. Although the mainland is on a decline, there is still significantly more transmission. If that is still the case then opening up Hawaii to tourism from the mainland is certainly putting lives at risk, which is a very difficult call for an elected official, especially given the sacrifices that were made to get to zero cases.
Apr 30, 2020, 11:20 am
#18
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As someone who also lives windward - I find it off the charts boring. I don't find anything pleasant about it at all. I agree opening up at the moment wouldn't make sense - but I find it truly awful. We have it far far worse than other West Coast states - if I leave the state to visit someone (which I want to do as my GF lives in CA) - I have to stay In my home and not leave for 14 days including grocery stores upon my return - so no, not pleasant. It's like groundhog day everyday.
Apr 30, 2020, 11:25 am
#19
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If Hawaii has zero cases of Covid-19 for an extended period, it can declare itself clear. They are possibly less than a month away from that point. Although the mainland is on a decline, there is still significantly more transmission. If that is still the case then opening up Hawaii to tourism from the mainland is certainly putting lives at risk, which is a very difficult call for an elected official, especially given the sacrifices that were made to get to zero cases.
Its not perfect as some could slip through, but there will always be risk from air crews, military, returning residents, and others who would be likely excepted-out of any system anyway.
Last edited by HawaiiSailor; Apr 30, 2020 at 12:20 pm
Apr 30, 2020, 11:34 am
#20
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.... But yeah if you have family-related travel needs, that ruins it!
Apr 30, 2020, 12:46 pm
#21
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Agree that the islands will have to open to tourism, at least to some degree, in the next few months. Many of the unemployed here haven't even been able to get their unemployment claims paid out due to technical problems.
Apr 30, 2020, 1:20 pm
#22
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As recent postings have gone off into a general discussion of tourism in Hawaii and/or the local government's responsive and far from UA travel related, will move this to the Hawaii forum.
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Apr 30, 2020, 4:40 pm
#23
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May 1, 2020, 12:02 pm
#24
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I just booked a trip for my family in late July that I am hope I don't have to cancel. We will just go to Florida or somewhere else with a beach if we can't. My rental condo can be canceled with no penalty 2 weeks prior to our stay and our flights are fully refundable, so there is no risk for me at this point. We saved our $2400 stimulus money to spend on a vacation to help the travel and tourism industry out. That money will be spent on food/drinks/activities somewhere. We plan to spend that on top of the money we would normally spend on vacation, so we should be able to go all out (by our standards).
May 1, 2020, 12:52 pm
#25
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I just booked a trip for my family in late July that I am hope I don't have to cancel. We will just go to Florida or somewhere else with a beach if we can't. My rental condo can be canceled with no penalty 2 weeks prior to our stay and our flights are fully refundable, so there is no risk for me at this point. We saved our $2400 stimulus money to spend on a vacation to help the travel and tourism industry out. That money will be spent on food/drinks/activities somewhere. We plan to spend that on top of the money we would normally spend on vacation, so we should be able to go all out (by our standards).
https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/04/co...ont-open-soon/
May 1, 2020, 1:06 pm
#26
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July is optimistic, but hopefully you will be able to go. I would recommend making some backup reservations soon as options may get booked out.
https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/04/co...ont-open-soon/
https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/04/co...ont-open-soon/
May 1, 2020, 2:02 pm
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At least on Maui, golf courses opened up today.
May 1, 2020, 2:14 pm
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May 1, 2020, 4:40 pm
#29
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Plans in the works to market Hawaii as the ‘safest place on earth’.
Alan Oshima, who was appointed by Gov. David Ige in April as the “navigator” of Hawaii’s stabilization and economic recovery effort, said Thursday he hears from tourism and other industry leaders that “we have one chance to reopen and to re-brand Hawaii as the safest place on earth, and we should do it right.
Ige said Wednesday it will be a while before the state opens up to tourists......”
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ZfY3JoNSKtgFz4
Alan Oshima, who was appointed by Gov. David Ige in April as the “navigator” of Hawaii’s stabilization and economic recovery effort, said Thursday he hears from tourism and other industry leaders that “we have one chance to reopen and to re-brand Hawaii as the safest place on earth, and we should do it right.
Ige said Wednesday it will be a while before the state opens up to tourists......”
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ZfY3JoNSKtgFz4
May 1, 2020, 6:06 pm
#30
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Plans in the works to market Hawaii as the ‘safest place on earth’.
Alan Oshima, who was appointed by Gov. David Ige in April as the “navigator” of Hawaii’s stabilization and economic recovery effort, said Thursday he hears from tourism and other industry leaders that “we have one chance to reopen and to re-brand Hawaii as the safest place on earth, and we should do it right.
Ige said Wednesday it will be a while before the state opens up to tourists......”
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ZfY3JoNSKtgFz4
Alan Oshima, who was appointed by Gov. David Ige in April as the “navigator” of Hawaii’s stabilization and economic recovery effort, said Thursday he hears from tourism and other industry leaders that “we have one chance to reopen and to re-brand Hawaii as the safest place on earth, and we should do it right.
Ige said Wednesday it will be a while before the state opens up to tourists......”
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ZfY3JoNSKtgFz4
Ige is such a clown..... his actions and dialogue through this whole thing have been too late, too harsh and very often contradictory. For example, the stay-at-home order was just extended thru May 31st yet golf courses were opened today..... So, am I supposed to golf from my couch?