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Old Jun 19, 2024 | 5:47 am
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Easypass RTP enrollment for other people?

Hello,

I am enrolled in EasyPASS RTP and will be renewing in July. My children plan to be in Germany in November. Does anyone know if I can enroll them in July when I renew? I can bring their passports and signed forms, but I wonder if they need to be physically present to enroll.

I sent the question to the BuPo but have not heard back yet.

Thanks!
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Old Sep 13, 2024 | 11:39 pm
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After an hour-long wait in MUC to get out of T2, I went to the Federal Police station and easily applied for EasyPass - I wont be touching German passport control until November (maybe after EES?), so it will be interesting to test when departing Frankfurt then. The actual process was quite easy and took about 2 minutes to fill out the paper form and then another 2 minute for them to scan in the forms and my passport in the back. The officers were friendly enough for Germany, even in English.
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 3:46 pm
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Any recent successful enrollment experiences?

I enrolled in July at BER and they told me I should be all set. But next entry, at HAM in September, the e-gates failed to let me through. I went to the Bundespolizei office at HAM, and they said there was no record of me in the computer, and processed another application.

But I have no way to tell if the second one worked. I tried emailing through the contact form on the EasyPass-RTP website, but a month later have heard nothing.
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 4:07 pm
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It is puzzling. I certainly would be helpful to be able to check one’s status before traveling.

We went to the office at BER in July with our re-enrollment paperwork and were told that we did not need to re-enroll.

The e-gates worked for us entering and leaving Germany. We will be back in Germany next month (MUC) and will see if re-enrollment is necessary.

As for my original question (about whether we could register our sons without them being there), the answer was “no.”

The EasyPASS-RTP page still has a header that says that, due to the new EES, re-registration is “generally required” and that participants from the USA and ROK can re-register as early as July 3, 2023. Perhaps we were ok because we first registered in August 2023?

I will try to report back after the November trip.

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Old Oct 16, 2024 | 6:43 pm
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Not an EasyPASS member but I was able to use a e-gate lane at MUC T1 (for exit immigration) recently that was clearly marked as accepting passports including from the U.S.

Is this new and/or only limited to MUC?
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Old Oct 17, 2024 | 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by progapanda
Not an EasyPASS member but I was able to use a e-gate lane at MUC T1 (for exit immigration) recently that was clearly marked as accepting passports including from the U.S.

Is this new and/or only limited to MUC?
I know for entry at MUC, they've had automated lanes that accepted US passports fro several years. It was the lanes to the far left. No expereince on the exit, but not suprising.
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 2:06 am
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MUC has exit egates in T1 & T2 for 'others' since quite some time. None for entry.
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 3:36 am
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I think the misunderstanding in the last couple of posts come from interpreting the direction There are gates for other passports to exit Schengen / enter airside, and none to enter Schengen / exit airside. I believe fed planner was referring to far left (semi-)automated gates at MUC T2 on the upper level towards H gates, which could be deemed "entry gates" to MUC airside
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by hdogan
I think the misunderstanding in the last couple of posts come from interpreting the direction There are gates for other passports to exit Schengen / enter airside, and none to enter Schengen / exit airside. I believe fed planner was referring to far left (semi-)automated gates at MUC T2 on the upper level towards H gates, which could be deemed "entry gates" to MUC airside
Thank you being clearer on that than I was. That was what I was attempting to articulate.
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Old Nov 3, 2024 | 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
MUC has exit egates in T1 & T2 for 'others' since quite some time. None for entry.
These are relevant if flying from US and transferring at MUC to a Shengen flight? Or only if exiting into Germany?

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Old Nov 4, 2024 | 1:59 am
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Originally Posted by Mike Jacoubowsky
These are relevant if flying from US and transferring at MUC to a Shengen flight? Or only if exiting into Germany?
Read my post above. Oliver's meaning was to "exit Schengen/Germany" and "enter Schengen/Germany", not "exit from non-Schengen airside into Schengen/Germany".
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Old Nov 4, 2024 | 10:45 am
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Originally Posted by hdogan
Read my post above. Oliver's meaning was to "exit Schengen/Germany" and "enter Schengen/Germany", not "exit from non-Schengen airside into Schengen/Germany".
My confusion comes from "just following the signs" and never being fully aware of when I'm airside or just in some sort of strange area in-between. My assumption is that one arrives from an overseas star alliance flight at Gate Hx, and to get to your Shengen filght at Gate Gx, you go landside without really knowing and, when you go through security, that's your re-entry to airside. Passport control comes when you exit H terminal.

So to apply for EasyPass isn't that big a deal, the landside part, because you're already landside anyway. You just need the time to do it.

Does the EasyPass do anything beyond access to the electronic passport gates? Thanks!

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Old Nov 4, 2024 | 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Mike Jacoubowsky
My confusion comes from "just following the signs" and never being fully aware of when I'm airside or just in some sort of strange area in-between. My assumption is that one arrives from an overseas star alliance flight at Gate Hx, and to get to your Shengen filght at Gate Gx, you go landside without really knowing and, when you go through security, that's your re-entry to airside. Passport control comes when you exit H terminal.
This is not entirely correct - you're mixing up two things: Landside/airsde is not determined by passport controls. If you fly into MUC, you're in any case airside. If you're on a Schengen flight (G-gates), you deplane to G-gates, and you can transfer to another flight within the Schengen area with no passport control or security. You're still airside, though. If you exit landside (through the baggage claim area), you're out of secure zone, and if you want to go back to catch your Schengen flight, you have to go through security. You don't need to go through passport control, because you're already in the Schengen area. If you're on anon-Schengen flight (arriving to H gates), connecting to a Schengen flight, you have to go through passport control, but even after you go through passport control, you're *still* airside, only in Schengen area airside.

So: security is mandatory when moving from airside to landside and vice-versa, and when arriving from non-clean airports. Passport control is only mandatory if a) arriving from a non-Schengen country and either exiting the airport altogether (going landside), or transferring to a Schengen flight (staying airside, but entering Schengen), or b) arriving from a Schengen country, or entering into airside from Munich city, and transferring to a non-Schengen destination. In scenario b) you will only pass through security if you're entering from landside (Munich city). Non-Schengen to non-Schengen flights will not require passport control, but might require security.

So to apply for EasyPass isn't that big a deal, the landside part, because you're already landside anyway. You just need the time to do it.
... and that time must include the possible delay at security going back into the airport. Because if you fly into MUC, you're never landside, you're only possibly airside in Schengen.

Does the EasyPass do anything beyond access to the electronic passport gates? Thanks!
No.

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Old Nov 24, 2024 | 5:54 am
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I tried to exit Germany at FRA using the e-Gates and was directed to see an officer. Perhaps it because it entered the EU through Italy (MXP). I did not have time to go to the Federal Police to see if I was still in the system.
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Old Nov 24, 2024 | 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by ajg0886
I tried to exit Germany at FRA using the e-Gates and was directed to see an officer. Perhaps it because it entered the EU through Italy (MXP). I did not have time to go to the Federal Police to see if I was still in the system.
Until EES is deployed, you always need to see an officer as you need to be stamped in or out.
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