Caesars (Total Rewards) Diamond Status from FoundersCard
#841
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Houston
Programs: UA Silver, IHG Plat AMB, Hertz Pres. Circle, Avis Presidents Club; Caesars Diamond Plus
Posts: 641
MY CURRENT TIER DIAMOND
UNTIL January 31st, 2018
Just got update today for another year. Had to pay yearly membership a few months early to get perk renewed ( did get promotional rate - nice plus). Just in time for a planned trip this week.
So far maybe I've been lucky - but I don't understand the scam comments. I clearly understand frustration with FoundersCard. A bit lacking in communication and sign-up process was a bit of hoop jumping. But I've had positive experience in regards to emails being replied to and receiving perks I have redeemed.
As to personal jabs I just read - program is setup in such a way that yes you can benefit from promoting the service. In some ways this might actually help - more members more bargaining power. In future it might hurt - because companies might not see value in overall membership - meaning not elite enough.
Hating on someone who has benefited from promoting is silly in my opinion. And if that promotion hadn't taken place - many of us wouldn't be having benefits from our paid for perks.
UNTIL January 31st, 2018
Just got update today for another year. Had to pay yearly membership a few months early to get perk renewed ( did get promotional rate - nice plus). Just in time for a planned trip this week.
So far maybe I've been lucky - but I don't understand the scam comments. I clearly understand frustration with FoundersCard. A bit lacking in communication and sign-up process was a bit of hoop jumping. But I've had positive experience in regards to emails being replied to and receiving perks I have redeemed.
As to personal jabs I just read - program is setup in such a way that yes you can benefit from promoting the service. In some ways this might actually help - more members more bargaining power. In future it might hurt - because companies might not see value in overall membership - meaning not elite enough.
Hating on someone who has benefited from promoting is silly in my opinion. And if that promotion hadn't taken place - many of us wouldn't be having benefits from our paid for perks.
#842
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: Founders Card
Posts: 119
In this case, they weren't refusing my money at all. They were denying an existing member a listed benefit.
A number of data points make me consider them a scam. I've held this belief for a few years now since first hearing of their existence. This included a conversation with an individual listed as a user on their site. I was willing however to participate if the math worked in my favor. And I found a list of half a dozen benefits which could be used by some of my business units that would along with CET mitigate the risk. And by scam, I only mean to say that they misrepresent themselves as more than a fancy coupon book which throws events once in awhile. I also question organizations that employ contracts which are clearly Unconscionable.
Why are you so quick to defend Founderscard? Their defense appears to be your sole contributions to this site.
A number of data points make me consider them a scam. I've held this belief for a few years now since first hearing of their existence. This included a conversation with an individual listed as a user on their site. I was willing however to participate if the math worked in my favor. And I found a list of half a dozen benefits which could be used by some of my business units that would along with CET mitigate the risk. And by scam, I only mean to say that they misrepresent themselves as more than a fancy coupon book which throws events once in awhile. I also question organizations that employ contracts which are clearly Unconscionable.
Why are you so quick to defend Founderscard? Their defense appears to be your sole contributions to this site.
You are quick to label them a scam, yet most stories of people using the card on here are positive. You believed this was a scam for a few years and still did business with them? Please detail what points are scams.
The Caesars benefit debacle came about because Caesars changed the dates their cards expired. It went from March 31 to January 31. FC could have been a little more forthcoming in informing the cardholders of the extended negotiations, but this is only one of the many benefit listed. So people gaming the system had to wait 6 days until their cards were upgraded.
My story is a positive one, having actually used the card for it's intended use, you are unhappy because they turned down your partner. Again, they have that right and they exercised that right. Not everyone I knew who signed up for the card was accepted and they never found out why.
#843
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: Founders Card
Posts: 119
#844
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 20
They did not turn down my partner for membership. My partner is a member at the <$200 level. They refused to provide my partner with the advertised benefit of adding an additional user. And they were admittedly arbitrary in this decision.
I again, have no issues if you or anyone else wants to use their service. I am however offering a data point on undelivered benefits. Please do not twist my words to imply that the benefit was not withheld from a member in good standing. I'm glad your experiences have been satisfactory.
I again, have no issues if you or anyone else wants to use their service. I am however offering a data point on undelivered benefits. Please do not twist my words to imply that the benefit was not withheld from a member in good standing. I'm glad your experiences have been satisfactory.
Last edited by l etoile; Feb 6, 2017 at 8:07 pm Reason: Personal attack removed per rules
#845
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: Founders Card
Posts: 119
They did not turn down my partner for membership. My partner is a member at the <$200 level. They refused to provide my partner with the advertised benefit of adding an additional user. And they were admittedly arbitrary in this decision.
I again, have no issues if you or anyone else wants to use their service. I am however offering a data point on undelivered benefits. Please do not twist my words to imply that the benefit was not withheld from a member in good standing. I'm glad your experiences have been satisfactory.
I again, have no issues if you or anyone else wants to use their service. I am however offering a data point on undelivered benefits. Please do not twist my words to imply that the benefit was not withheld from a member in good standing. I'm glad your experiences have been satisfactory.
• Memberships are non transferable.
• Memberships are subject to review and approval.
• Membership are subject to Membership terms and conditions.
Is this what you are talking about? Seems they are subject to review and approval, doesn't sound arbitrary, sounds like it was reviewed and not approved.
Last edited by l etoile; Feb 6, 2017 at 8:08 pm
#846
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 20
When they refuse to give a reason for the refusal, and state only that they have the right to refuse the benefit, that meets my definition of arbitrary. At this point though, if I need to point that out to you this conversation isn't going to be productive. <Personal attack removed>
Last edited by l etoile; Feb 6, 2017 at 8:09 pm Reason: Personal attack
#847
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: Founders Card
Posts: 119
They did not turn down my partner for membership. My partner is a member at the <$200 level. They refused to provide my partner with the advertised benefit of adding an additional user. And they were admittedly arbitrary in this decision.
I again, have no issues if you or anyone else wants to use their service. I am however offering a data point on undelivered benefits. Please do not twist my words to imply that the benefit was not withheld from a member in good standing. I'm glad your experiences have been satisfactory.
I again, have no issues if you or anyone else wants to use their service. I am however offering a data point on undelivered benefits. Please do not twist my words to imply that the benefit was not withheld from a member in good standing. I'm glad your experiences have been satisfactory.
Last edited by l etoile; Feb 6, 2017 at 8:09 pm
#848
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: Founders Card
Posts: 119
(Anyone else) have a bad experience with FC? The Caesars snafu was a pain, but not a show stopper. Anybody else have an experience where a benefit wasn't honored? Anyone using the ATT 15% discount? Any other discounts with real world experiences?
I'm asking because I have a couple of friends asking about the card and I'm on the fence about making the recommendation unless the benefits have actually been used. Also, there may be some discounts I'm missing.
I'm asking because I have a couple of friends asking about the card and I'm on the fence about making the recommendation unless the benefits have actually been used. Also, there may be some discounts I'm missing.
Last edited by l etoile; Feb 6, 2017 at 8:24 pm Reason: Removed inappropriate comment. Moderator wording in ()
#849
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 219
At the Rio right now. The app shows Diamond, the website shows Diamond, the self service swipe your card machine shows Diamond, yet TR' s system shows Platinum. They can not print my new card because of it. A nice lady asked IT to upgrade it manually.
#850
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 219
#851
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA | CLT, formerly LHR & AMS (with just a bit of PSP)
Programs: BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, BonVoy Titanium, (soon former) Caesars7*, (former) Wynn Black, HR "Icon"
Posts: 8,172
(Anyone else) have a bad experience with FC? The Caesars snafu was a pain, but not a show stopper. Anybody else have an experience where a benefit wasn't honored? Anyone using the ATT 15% discount? Any other discounts with real world experiences?
I'm asking because I have a couple of friends asking about the card and I'm on the fence about making the recommendation unless the benefits have actually been used. Also, there may be some discounts I'm missing.
I'm asking because I have a couple of friends asking about the card and I'm on the fence about making the recommendation unless the benefits have actually been used. Also, there may be some discounts I'm missing.
#852
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 21
When they refuse to give a reason for the refusal, and state only that they have the right to refuse the benefit, that meets my definition of arbitrary. At this point though, if I need to point that out to you this conversation isn't going to be productive. <Personal attack removed>
James found this and posted earlier in the thread...
Here's the fine print from FC when you signed up:
(b) FoundersCard has the right to add, modify or eliminate any benefit or service at any time at our discretion. FoundersCard does not guarantee the availability of any of its benefits and they are all subject to change at any time without notice.
#853
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Michigan
Programs: DL PM
Posts: 855
I recall someone using the AT&T discount a year or two ago. My AT&T account is a business account, so it was not applicable. I've used MailChimp, JetSmarter (just did the sign-up), Cathay and a few others. I also know for a fact the Apple discount is legitimate; but it's only for business and runs through their business team. I know many that have had no issue with the Hilton Gold Upgrade, and the British Airways discount also works. When they had the AA Platinum Upgrade, that did work for me. I'm sure I am missing some.
#854
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 64
They did not turn down my partner for membership. My partner is a member at the <$200 level. They refused to provide my partner with the advertised benefit of adding an additional user. And they were admittedly arbitrary in this decision.
I again, have no issues if you or anyone else wants to use their service. I am however offering a data point on undelivered benefits. Please do not twist my words to imply that the benefit was not withheld from a member in good standing. I'm glad your experiences have been satisfactory.
I again, have no issues if you or anyone else wants to use their service. I am however offering a data point on undelivered benefits. Please do not twist my words to imply that the benefit was not withheld from a member in good standing. I'm glad your experiences have been satisfactory.
#855
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: total rewards
Posts: 2
Question: Did FC renew the Diamond status with Total Rewards?
-jc