New and cancelled destinations, major schedule and operational changes
Apr 29, 2017, 3:52 am
#646
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KIX, NGO and NRT have all varying routings when going eastbound. NRT goes usually via Khabarovsk area, but KIX and NGO may go via Beijing and Seoul as often there is a easterly blowing jetstream over the Korean peninsula. Westbound all these flights most often go via Khabarovsk.
Of course, as always, operators choose routing on day-by-day basis as a compromise of the wind conditions on different available routings (=flight time), overfly fees and as noted before, also political reasons.
Of course, as always, operators choose routing on day-by-day basis as a compromise of the wind conditions on different available routings (=flight time), overfly fees and as noted before, also political reasons.
Apr 29, 2017, 9:22 am
#647
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Finnair (with several other airlines) used North Korean airspace at least 2-3 years ago, also crossing the NK territory briefly in NE corner.
More information: Who’s using North Korean airspace?
More information: Who’s using North Korean airspace?
Apr 30, 2017, 11:26 am
#648
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As I've lived in Korea quite a few years, not really that concerned about the DPRK.
Of course, they could even shell ICN or GMP with their long range artillery as one of their regular military provocations but the regime there is mostly concerned with keeping power and their luxury lifestyle.
Btw, as there are currently no OneWorld connections between China and Korea at all, an AY add-on flight from either PEK or PVG to Busan/PUS might just attract quite a few OW loyalists...
May 1, 2017, 9:12 am
#650
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Are you also suggesting
is not happening?!?
AY7 on OCT3 seems to still offer J4 C4 D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4 P4 T4 L4 V4 S4 N4 Q4 O4 Z4 R4 G4 W4 X0 E0
"Flights to Miami will resume on October 1 with three weekly frequencies."
AY7 on OCT3 seems to still offer J4 C4 D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4 P4 T4 L4 V4 S4 N4 Q4 O4 Z4 R4 G4 W4 X0 E0
Jun 27, 2017, 2:31 am
#652
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What on Earth is happening to the BUD frequencies? There has been two daily rotations AY 753 & 755 for as long as I remember, now for July/Augus I see an absolutly weird frequency, AY757. On 30/July it's at 5:50 am, but three days earlier it's at 20:15.
Could it be the Formula-1 race, that make this so confusing? Is the Bottas kid already so popular that fans go in droves to the Hungarian GP as in the old Häkkinen days? (In those days MA had 5 flights within an hour of each other. Guess if the returns were empty and cheap
Could it be the Formula-1 race, that make this so confusing? Is the Bottas kid already so popular that fans go in droves to the Hungarian GP as in the old Häkkinen days? (In those days MA had 5 flights within an hour of each other. Guess if the returns were empty and cheap
Jun 27, 2017, 2:39 am
#653
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What on Earth is happening to the BUD frequencies? There has been two daily rotations AY 753 & 755 for as long as I remember, now for July/Augus I see an absolutly weird frequency, AY757. On 30/July it's at 5:50 am, but three days earlier it's at 20:15.
Could it be the Formula-1 race, that make this so confusing? Is the Bottas kid already so popular that fans go in droves to the Hungarian GP as in the old Häkkinen days? (In those days MA had 5 flights within an hour of each other. Guess if the returns were empty and cheap
Could it be the Formula-1 race, that make this so confusing? Is the Bottas kid already so popular that fans go in droves to the Hungarian GP as in the old Häkkinen days? (In those days MA had 5 flights within an hour of each other. Guess if the returns were empty and cheap
Sun 05:50 Helsinki (HEL) 2 07:10 Budapest (BUD) 2A
AY 757 Non-stop Airbus A321 (321) 2:20 Effective 2017-06-18 through 2017-08-06
Thu 20:15 Helsinki (HEL) 2 21:35 Budapest (BUD) 2A
AY 757 Non-stop Airbus A320 (320) 2:20 Effective 2017-06-22 through 2017-08-10
Sun 07:50 Budapest (BUD) 2B 11:10 Helsinki (HEL) 2
AY 758 Non-stop Airbus A321 (321) 2:20 Effective 2017-06-18 through 2017-08-06
Thu 22:15 Budapest (BUD) 2B 01:35 Helsinki (HEL) 2
AY 758 Non-stop Airbus A320 (320) 2:20 Effective 2017-06-22 through 2017-08-10
Jun 27, 2017, 2:45 am
#654
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Obviously needed and well sold, as no X bucket to BUD several days ahead or after the F1 race. U bucket was still available (grabbed a pair) and online chat kindly adjusted the charges for X points + vouchers.
Jun 27, 2017, 3:40 am
#655
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