Experiences of AY flights during COVID-19
#931
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: JOE
Programs: AY+ Silver
Posts: 45
And because AY is right now living on government money and they know that disobeying recommendations would create too much badwill from the government. For the government, requiring a test certificate is an acceptable and also quite efficient way of limiting international air travel, which is one of the cornerstones in the current Finnish COVID strategy (which seems to follow Tomas Pueyo's Swiss Cheese Strategy).
- The certificate stating that you have been ill with the coronavirus within the last 6 months, but already recovered from it, must contain your name (as in your travel document), date of birth, date of issuance of the certificate and the party issuing the certificate (person and company).
Quid of the tests on arrival? With this new requirement it seems unnecessary to have the whole infrastructure (and I thought it was also a good reason for putting such regulation so the money is spent by the travellers and not by the city of Vantaa).
#932
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 640
FYI re: Covid testing at airport.
Landside (Arrivals) Aava clinic is only open for rapid Antigen tests at the time of the Amsterdam flight. Not available otherwise.
Airside (post-Security) Aava clinic only has PCR tests with <2hr turnaround with certificate. Still super rapid for PCR, but its not 15 min antigen.
You will not be able to check-in bags or board (if hand luggage only) unless you have negative Covid test. If you have >2.5 hrs to flight you can negotiate to get airside to get the Aava PCR test. Bags held in standby until confirmed.
Be prepared that there is confusion between UK requirements for PCR vs Antigen (UK accepts both, agents often think only PCR).
Landside (Arrivals) Aava clinic is only open for rapid Antigen tests at the time of the Amsterdam flight. Not available otherwise.
Airside (post-Security) Aava clinic only has PCR tests with <2hr turnaround with certificate. Still super rapid for PCR, but its not 15 min antigen.
You will not be able to check-in bags or board (if hand luggage only) unless you have negative Covid test. If you have >2.5 hrs to flight you can negotiate to get airside to get the Aava PCR test. Bags held in standby until confirmed.
Be prepared that there is confusion between UK requirements for PCR vs Antigen (UK accepts both, agents often think only PCR).
To answer my own question, I just heard back from Aava: yes, it would be possible to get results within 2 hours. Total price is 300€ (including referral, test and certificate).
Last edited by Mister P.; Jan 27, 2021 at 3:52 am Reason: Update info
#933
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,816
Be sure to choose LH or QR for your travels, everyone."Yle tiedusteli Suomeen edelleen matkustajia kuljettavilta Lufthansalta, KLM:lt ja Qatar Airwaysilta, vaativatko ne lhtkentll todistuksen taudista tervehtymisest tai negatiivisest koronatestist.
Kaikki kolme vastasivat keskiviikkona, ett ne noudattavat Suomen terveysviranomaisten mryksi. Terveysviranomainen ei vaadi mainittuja todistuksia."
(KL is out of the question as AMS requires two different tests at the moment.)
Kaikki kolme vastasivat keskiviikkona, ett ne noudattavat Suomen terveysviranomaisten mryksi. Terveysviranomainen ei vaadi mainittuja todistuksia."
(KL is out of the question as AMS requires two different tests at the moment.)
#934
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,628
Not many people want to be guinea pigs. But the question mostly only makes sense for those who get to be vaccinated now, meaning elderly, sick and health care people. Would I take the vaccine if I were old enough? I don't know, but I guess I would, in spite of the small risk.
I'm not going to argue about what's the biggest and/or most urgent issue. My point is just that the vaccination certificates are a big can of worms that has now been opened and will not be closed any time soon.
#935
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: try to stay home
Programs: AY, M&M, BAEC ...and don t care of status anymore
Posts: 2,051
As speculated before it looks like Germany is closing the borders to certain countries, at the moment the UK, Portugal, Brasil and South Africa are on the list, Denmark and the Netherlands can be next. All countries where B 1.1.7. are active could be on the list soon.
Also rumors around that Norway want to close its borders to all travelers - I can t see how I can keep my status in 2021.
Also rumors around that Norway want to close its borders to all travelers - I can t see how I can keep my status in 2021.
#936
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: HEL
Programs: lots of shiny metal cards
Posts: 14,122
Be sure to choose LH or QR for your travels, everyone."Yle tiedusteli Suomeen edelleen matkustajia kuljettavilta Lufthansalta, KLM:lt ja Qatar Airwaysilta, vaativatko ne lhtkentll todistuksen taudista tervehtymisest tai negatiivisest koronatestist.
Kaikki kolme vastasivat keskiviikkona, ett ne noudattavat Suomen terveysviranomaisten mryksi. Terveysviranomainen ei vaadi mainittuja todistuksia."
(KL is out of the question as AMS requires two different tests at the moment.)
Kaikki kolme vastasivat keskiviikkona, ett ne noudattavat Suomen terveysviranomaisten mryksi. Terveysviranomainen ei vaadi mainittuja todistuksia."
(KL is out of the question as AMS requires two different tests at the moment.)
Or maybe HEL-IST-BUD...
#937
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Platinum
Posts: 215
Tried to search for information on the AY website, but without results.
#938
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,220
(this is a thing I suggested Finnair implemented back in the days when I still thought I would fly again. QR did do it, and I think the info is relatively well maintained, not only for Qatar but for all their destinations)
Last edited by intuition; Jan 28, 2021 at 3:32 am
#939
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,816
Sounds like QR is implementing the recommendation as a requirement. The text is from the QR website, regarding entry into Finland.
Test Certificate Requirements
Test Certificate Requirements
- Test certificates issued outside of Finland are accepted.
- Effective 28 January, all travellers will be required to present a COVID-19 PCR and Loop-mediated Isothermal Amplification (LAMP) test taken maximum 72 hours before departure and for antigen test maximum 48 hours before departure.
- Test certificates may exempt travellers from quarantine and testing measures on arrival.
#940
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
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Posts: 8,816
I just got back from the clinic here in Las Palmas and now have a crisp antigen test result in my hand. The lady at the clinic reception, of course, spoke Finnish. The test & certificate cost 25 EUR. A PCR test would have been 135 EUR.
#941
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,816
From AGP, no mobile BP available. Consequently, long queues at checkin. Covid certificate was checked and accepted. BP states CDOK.
Didnt see anyone turned back. I received two SMSs in advance of the flight about the new requirement.
Didnt see anyone turned back. I received two SMSs in advance of the flight about the new requirement.
#942
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Plat
Posts: 112
Plane was surprisingly fullish. I think 50-60% load. Interestingly, they offered priority boarding, although I had boarding group 3 on my bp.
In Hel, they didn't test me although I had only an Antigen test and no PCR. Borderguard was grumpy, it seemed I disturbed him while he was on the phone... and when arriving in the luggage hall, bags were already there.
#943
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
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Posts: 8,816
Of course they didnt test you. The whole point is to save money and have pax tested abroad instead of at HEL.
Did they ask to see your certificate at HEL? Theres no chance in HELl I will show them mine After all, why would I?
Did they ask to see your certificate at HEL? Theres no chance in HELl I will show them mine After all, why would I?
#944
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,628
Just domestic trip, very stupid new rule if it is new normal.
#945
Join Date: May 2015
Location: ATL/MCO
Programs: Costco Gold Star, RaceTrac Sultan of Soda, Chick-fil-A Red
Posts: 5,680
In all honesty, if the goal is to minimize contact points then forcing you to visit the desk is ironic.