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ffay005 Apr 16, 2019 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by Trav1970 (Post 31008039)
They may not change the schedule, but couldn't they change the MCT temporarily to force passengers to pick connections that might actually work?

But for how long should such a temporary MCT be in force? Pakistan has announced that the closure lasts until 23 April. A day or two before that, they might extend it, or they might not. Nobody knows, which is the core of all the problems here.

A reasonable thing for AY to do would be to allow customers to make changes 48 hours before departure. That's a relatively small window. It would be helpful for pax (at least the pax in the know) but wouldn't be too costly for AY.

ffay005 Apr 18, 2019 4:32 pm

AY has heard our wishes (?). I’m doing a DEL run on 06-07MAY and the updated schedule is HEL-DEL 18:35-06:05 and DEL-HEL 07:50-14:45.

For my April flights, however, the schedule remains unchanged.

(1 h 45 min at DEL seems a bit rushed, but I can't see why it wouldn't be doable. If the transfer desk looks messy, I'll just scribble DT on my BP and proceed to security and go to the gate early...)

quinzinho Apr 18, 2019 8:47 pm

Well, AY142 is still an absolute mess and my schedule has not been updated. I'm flying on May 6th as well. Worried about this and would be extremely annoyed if AY does not re-book me in advance. I do not want to get stranded in HEL.

Ed Size Apr 18, 2019 10:13 pm


Originally Posted by quinzinho (Post 31015816)
Well, AY142 is still an absolute mess and my schedule has not been updated. I'm flying on May 6th as well. Worried about this and would be extremely annoyed if AY does not re-book me in advance. I do not want to get stranded in HEL.

You won´t get stranded in HEL, your problem is AMS. Wich class of service you are traveling? If in J ask for connections inY also, this will give them more options.

EuroFlash Apr 19, 2019 1:06 am

Flying AY142 on 16th June. Let’s see for how long this airspace closure remains an issue.

Is there any website to get actual details on this?

oliver2002 Apr 19, 2019 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by EuroFlash (Post 31016280)
Flying AY142 on 16th June. Let’s see for how long this airspace closure remains an issue.

Is there any website to get actual details on this?

https://ops.group/blog/pakistan-india/

quinzinho Apr 19, 2019 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by Ed Size (Post 31016004)
You won´t get stranded in HEL, your problem is AMS. Wich class of service you are traveling? If in J ask for connections inY also, this will give them more options.

Yes flying in J.
There's only 1 other option after the flight I booked to get to AMS that day, which is a KL flight and AY so far is reluctant to book me on that.

Thanks for the advice.

Ed Size Apr 19, 2019 11:24 pm


Originally Posted by quinzinho (Post 31018694)
Yes flying in J.
There's only 1 other option after the flight I booked to get to AMS that day, which is a KL flight and AY so far is reluctant to book me on that.

Thanks for the advice.

This is the only direct option. But AY is taking all other possible options (if there are any), so did you check all possible connection flights like HEL-WAW-AMS or HEL-FRA-AMS etc.etc.? The connection they put me on was not available at Google flights etc. With a normal search I would been stranded that day in HEL, but AY used flights via CPH and MUC to bring people to TXL.

ffay005 Apr 21, 2019 10:33 am

In the past two days, AY142 has had a delay of 24 and 42 minutes.

florens Apr 23, 2019 5:02 am

Airspace will remain closed until 15th of May with exceptions:



(A0459/19 NOTAMR A0409/19
Q)OPXX/QRAXX///W/000/999/
A)OPKR OPLR
B)1904221200 C)1905151000 EST
E)E)PAKISTAN AIRSPACE WILL REMAIN CLOSED FOR ALL OVERFLYING
(TRANSIT) FLIGHTS TILL 15TH MAY 2019,TIME 1000 UTC (EST)
EXCEPT THE FOLLOWING ATS ROUTES:

01) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 KALAT G452 DERBO
AND VICE VERSA
02) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 PG G665 ASVIB AND VICE VERSA
03) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 JI-METBI/EGRON AND VICE VERSA
04) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 PG T385 TAPDO
05) APELO B505 PG G325 PS DCT 3550N07210E DCT PURPA
06) ALPOR M504 TELEM
07) SAPNA DCT TAPDO AS CONTINGENCY CONNECTIVITY FOR WEST
BOUND FLIGHTS ON 24 HRS BASIS
08) TRANSIT FLIGHTS ARE ALSO PERMITTED ON ROUTE SEGMENT
SERKA-KALAT AND VICE VERSA
09) PIRAN A453 GADER AND VICE VERSA
10) KABIM DCT TAPDO AND VICE VERSA AS BI-DIRECTIONAL CONTINGENCY
CONNECTIVITY FOR TRANSIT FLIGHTS ON 24HRS BASIS
11) ALPOR G216 LAKIV N894 TELEM
F)SFC G)UNL)
https://www.caapakistan.com.pk/uploa...s/A0459-19.TXT

ffay005 Apr 23, 2019 2:46 pm

@quinzinho Today's AY142 arrived 65 minutes behind schedule. Pax to AMS were rerouted on KLM. Hope this helps in planning your flights.

quinzinho Apr 23, 2019 5:36 pm


Originally Posted by ffay005 (Post 31030122)
@quinzinho Today's AY142 arrived 65 minutes behind schedule. Pax to AMS were rerouted on KLM. Hope this helps in planning your flights.

It does, thanks!

Ed Size Apr 25, 2019 1:30 am

Just for the record AY is not willing to compensate extra costs which I had because of a 4 hour delay on AY142, they just wish that my insurance will cover that costs. They claiming off loading bags for 45 minutes and the different route are the reason for the delay - and both are extraordinary circumstances - so not compensation from the side of AY.

florens Apr 25, 2019 3:18 am


Originally Posted by Ed Size (Post 31035104)
Just for the record AY is not willing to compensate extra costs which I had because of a 4 hour delay on AY142, they just wish that my insurance will cover that costs. They claiming off loading bags for 45 minutes and the different route are the reason for the delay - and both are extraordinary circumstances - so not compensation from the side of AY.

Compensation and duty of care are two different things. What do you mean by "compensate extra costs"?

Ed Size Apr 25, 2019 3:48 am


Originally Posted by florens (Post 31035259)
Compensation and duty of care are two different things. What do you mean by "compensate extra costs"?

I had arranged a limousine pick up which I had to pay since I only can cancel it with a charge (due to the time), also I have to rearrange my transport and due to the later arrival (after 20:00 instead of 18:00) I had to pay a "night surcharge" - total I lost about 120€ (80€ for the canceled limousine and 40€ for the night surcharge).


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