Jul 29, 2019, 7:58 am
Last edit by: Courmisch
Chinese carriers' current schedule to HEL (Nov 2019)
- Sichuan Airlines (A333):
- CTU 02:00 HEL 06:00 15
- HEL 08:35 CPH 09:10 15
- CPH 10:55 HEL 13:35 15
- HEL 15:45 CTU 05:00(+1) 15
- Juneyao Airlines (B789)
(long-haul marketed also by Finnair and China Eastern)- PVG 01:20 05:20 HEL 246 -28MAR20
- HEL 15:30 06:30(+1) PVG 246 -28MAR20
- PVG 00:55 06:00 HEL D 29MAR20-
- HEL 07:30 08:30 MAN 135 29MAR20-
- MAN 10:00 15:10 HEL 135 29MAR20-
- HEL 07:30 08:20 KEF 26 29MAR20-
- KEF 09:50 16:20 HEL 26 29MAR20-
- HEL 07:30 08:45 DUB 47 29MAR20-
- DUB 10:00 15:10 HEL 47 29MAR20-
- HEL 16:35 06:35(+1) PVG 13457 29MAR20-
- HEL 17:50 07:50(+1) PVG 26 29MAR20-
- Tibet Airlines (A333):
- TNA 16:05 19:30 HEL 1
- HEL 21:30 13:00(+1) TNA 1
Chinese carrier to Helsinki (again)
Feb 6, 2019, 10:25 am
#46
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I guess HO takes the destinations that MU does not care about. Presumably many Oceanian destinations are hands off from HO.
Feb 6, 2019, 3:12 pm
#47
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CA announced they will cancel PVG-MEL and PVG-SYD IIRC
So is there demand enough for yet another AU connection?
CZ has massive capacity via CAN I think.
Feb 7, 2019, 12:42 am
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Mar 10, 2019, 12:01 pm
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Tibet Airlines has filed its schedule, but I (seemingly) no fares:
TV6001 TNA1530 – 2030HEL 330
TV6002 HEL2230 – 1230+1TNA 330
Monday and, later, Thursday. If they actually pull this off, they will beat HO at being the first Chinese carrier in HEL - with a most unimaginable route.
No news of CZ?
TV6001 TNA1530 – 2030HEL 330
TV6002 HEL2230 – 1230+1TNA 330
Monday and, later, Thursday. If they actually pull this off, they will beat HO at being the first Chinese carrier in HEL - with a most unimaginable route.
No news of CZ?
Mar 10, 2019, 4:20 pm
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Googling Jinan, it's one of those Chinese megacities (8.7 million!) no one has ever heard of... And with an airport that has no directs to Europe. If TV can partner with tour operators, I'm sure they can fill two A330s a week with Chinese tourists snapping a quick picture at Senate Square (no, wait, snapping 100 quick pictures) before connecting to continental Europe.
The schedule seems very pleasant, too.
The schedule seems very pleasant, too.
Mar 10, 2019, 4:41 pm
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Mar 10, 2019, 7:52 pm
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The schedule may be nice(r than Finnair's big wave) from a certain point of view. But it precludes most onward connections to Europe. So indeed, aside from tour-guided Chinese starting with Helsinki as their first stop, I don't see who'd use this.
O/D traffic from HEL is probably very very low. And if Jinan is not even a hub for TV, then it's clearly not meant to capture China-bound Helsinki passengers.
O/D traffic from HEL is probably very very low. And if Jinan is not even a hub for TV, then it's clearly not meant to capture China-bound Helsinki passengers.
Mar 10, 2019, 8:08 pm
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My guess is a carefully planned itinerary where HEL is the first stop and the last stop is one that has an evening flight landing at HEL after 8 pm. There are at least nine European cities from which there are such connections (not limited to AY flights).
Mar 10, 2019, 8:31 pm
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Certainly from Europe, connections would be possible if TN has/makes necessary interlining agreement with AY and possibly others. Finnair has a mini-bank around 7-8pm. But to Europe, it's mostly domestic plus Estonia and Stockholm that can be flown late enough, so we agree that they'd have to start with a Helsinki photoshoot.
Mar 11, 2019, 9:52 am
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Their PVG-AU services were legacy of times (I think even since CAAC days in the 80's, long time before even Pudong was built) when flights to AU were PEK-SHA-SYD-MEL-SHA-PEK.
CA tried different tings at PVG (like flights to SJC - San Jose, California) and looks like they cannot win with MU.
Mar 16, 2019, 4:03 pm
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Tibet Airlines has filed its schedule, but I (seemingly) no fares:
TV6001 TNA1530 2030HEL 330
TV6002 HEL2230 1230+1TNA 330
Monday and, later, Thursday. If they actually pull this off, they will beat HO at being the first Chinese carrier in HEL - with a most unimaginable route.
No news of CZ?
TV6001 TNA1530 2030HEL 330
TV6002 HEL2230 1230+1TNA 330
Monday and, later, Thursday. If they actually pull this off, they will beat HO at being the first Chinese carrier in HEL - with a most unimaginable route.
No news of CZ?
Apr 8, 2019, 7:14 am
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Tibet Airlines has filed its schedule, but I (seemingly) no fares:
TV6001 TNA1530 2030HEL 330
TV6002 HEL2230 1230+1TNA 330
Monday and, later, Thursday. If they actually pull this off, they will beat HO at being the first Chinese carrier in HEL - with a most unimaginable route.
TV6001 TNA1530 2030HEL 330
TV6002 HEL2230 1230+1TNA 330
Monday and, later, Thursday. If they actually pull this off, they will beat HO at being the first Chinese carrier in HEL - with a most unimaginable route.