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is there any way to select a specific fare class when booking online? I see on ITA that a V fare is available, but when going through booking on finnair.com I was only able to get O or Q fares. The booking code only shows up on the last page before payment so it's a bit annoying to click different flights and go through the whole process only to see it end up the wrong fare. I want to get an economy H/K/L/M/P/V/T fare for the higher % of distance EQD earnings on AA.
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Why do some fare letters earn different percentages depending on whether it's AY metal or codeshare?
A: 25% (economy) on AY metal, 300% (first) on codeshare F: Business class on AY metal but earns as economy, 300% (first) on codeshare W: 25% on AY metal but 100% on codeshare E: 0% on AY metal but 100% on codeshare P: 0% (or doesn't exist?) on AY metal but 300% on codeshare This is confusing! |
Because every airline uses their own booking classes, there are conventions around Y and J/C and F but even these are not followed through.
Like F on AY, which is purely "upgraded to business" so it earns what your origin ticket would have earned without the upgrade. |
Originally Posted by Some person
(Post 30821333)
Why do some fare letters earn different percentages depending on whether it's AY metal or codeshare?
A: 25% (economy) on AY metal, 300% (first) on codeshare F: Business class on AY metal but earns as economy, 300% (first) on codeshare W: 25% on AY metal but 100% on codeshare E: 0% on AY metal but 100% on codeshare P: 0% (or doesn't exist?) on AY metal but 300% on codeshare This is confusing! |
Originally Posted by Some person
(Post 30821333)
Why do some fare letters earn different percentages depending on whether it's AY metal or codeshare?
A: 25% (economy) on AY metal, 300% (first) on codeshare F: Business class on AY metal but earns as economy, 300% (first) on codeshare W: 25% on AY metal but 100% on codeshare E: 0% on AY metal but 100% on codeshare P: 0% (or doesn't exist?) on AY metal but 300% on codeshare This is confusing! |
When you book enough on the same airline(mostly learnt hardway), it's possible to remember some of the code and its actual earnings.
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Originally Posted by NoWindowSeat
(Post 30822837)
Different airlines, simple as that. Same like a pepperoni pizza, restaurant A can charge you 8€ and restaurant B 25€.
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Originally Posted by Some person
(Post 30821333)
Why do some fare letters earn different percentages depending on whether it's AY metal or codeshare?
A: 25% (economy) on AY metal, 300% (first) on codeshare F: Business class on AY metal but earns as economy, 300% (first) on codeshare W: 25% on AY metal but 100% on codeshare E: 0% on AY metal but 100% on codeshare P: 0% (or doesn't exist?) on AY metal but 300% on codeshare This is confusing! Then I agree it is confusing. Because what fare code the operator puts on the flight has no meaning in OW alliance when it comes to earnings. So technically I assume AY is free so set their own fare code on their own codeshared flightnumer. For instance, AY5483 LON-JFK operated by BA. If you buy this in FIrst cabin from Finnair you'll get a ticket with F or A code, which is ambiguous as these are already used for economy and the upgrade bucket. Sure, BA are free to chose A and F codes for first, but as this is sold as a AY flight, AY5483, AY could easily have chosen to have their own letters on this ticket in order to not confuse the earnings table. They could have chosen Ĺ/Ä/Ö to mean different flavours of "First" and then added Ĺ/Ä/Ö to the Finnair earning table to earn 300%. (AY code on flight means it is a Finnair flight regardless of who operates) As there is no First on AY, they would only apply to codeshares, but that is no probelm at all, unless they are running out of letters. To the customers this would be much more clear and unambiguous. |
Originally Posted by intuition
(Post 30823382)
unless they are running out of letters.
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It certainly will be a problem when Y+ is introduced on the finnair fleet.
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Originally Posted by Some person
(Post 30822968)
I'm not aware of a restaurant which sells its own pepperoni pizzas for 8 euros and another restaurant's pepperoni (branded as the restaurant's own pepperoni pizzas) for 25 euros. Usually restaurants do not engage in this codeshare business where you put your own brand on someone else's product.
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Originally Posted by Some person
(Post 30822968)
I'm not aware of a restaurant which sells its own pepperoni pizzas for 8 euros and another restaurant's pepperoni (branded as the restaurant's own pepperoni pizzas) for 25 euros. Usually restaurants do not engage in this codeshare business where you put your own brand on someone else's product.
Next time I call on to book my flights and ask ”can I book travel extras as Onnibus-seat and Kotipizza-meal”. -no, our seats are even more cramped and pick your bag at burgerking if you are looking for codeshared services, we deliver only authentic Incredible experiences! |
Originally Posted by FFlash
(Post 30824275)
Next time I call on to book my flights and ask ”can I book travel extras as Onnibus-seat and Kotipizza-meal”. -no, our seats are even more cramped and pick your bag at burgerking if you are looking for codeshared services, we deliver only authentic Incredible experiences!
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Originally Posted by Some person
(Post 30821333)
E: 0% on AY metal but 100% on codeshare
P: 0% (or doesn't exist?) on AY metal but 300% on codeshare This is confusing! P exists and is 100%. Quite rare tho. |
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