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Fare class tutorial
Why do the fare class codes need to be so cryptic?
I was killing time on my longhaul and tried to come up with a more easily understandable fare class codes. Here we go an example for AY: J (ex-Asia): Jingle bells – I got a seat in minicabin with lots of op-up friends from BKK! J (ex-HEL): "Jumalauta, that's like 3 times more expensive than Inferior class!" C (Shorthaul): Cocktail Cabin Class. "I wonder if I can drink enough to make this ticket worth the money". (alternative: Company pays class, and I don't care. ) C (Longhaul): Coffin class with Champagne and Cake D Dough. I paid too much for that stripped off service. I I want to get that saver ticket! Y Your overpriced Pro-fessional friend B Bullsh** - what’s the point? H Hilarious!!! Pay 600€ one-way and get a bus! R Rich people’s company policy fare code Z Zodiac syndrome, my upgrade did not clear! O Oh my, aircraft switch and I lost my exit-row seat… Q Questions –class ticket for bikey Aussies traveling econometric to Rovaniemi N Nasty class. Your unofficial newspaper perk arrived, but they forgot the free drink S Shorthaul sucker. To be avoided on long-haul. V Vidudus class. L Lame class. Therefore thou shall be thrilled of that free blueberry juice. K Karjaluokka. ‘cause there is no translation to that feeling. M Murphy class. Something will go wrong. P P…stä. Another untranslatable experience. Only for native Finns. T Terrible class. Everything else feels terrific after this. E “Enhanced for Emeralds” class: you earn 0 on AY, but 100% with codeshare A A bummer: 25% pts on AY, but 300% if codeshare W Double-vidudus class, in order words, whY am I doing this again? G Gee-class = “gee, at least I got a qualifying leg!” U - Utopy class without points promos or credit card churn, unbookable without waitlisting. X - Xmas gift. Your friend when revenue ticket has risen wAY above your pocket and when you actually can ticket it without waitlist. |
For curiosity:
-What is your favorite? -Do you have your own fare class proposal? |
The serious answer for 1-alphabetical booking codes is probably hysterical raisins of the airline IT systems and IATA. This also applies to the 6-alphanumeric booking references and to fare basis, not to mention flight numbers and to our FT-beloved airport codes, airlines codes and cabin codes.
But who cares about booking codes now that we have ticket types! Ah, if only all OTAs showed the whole fare basis... so far I found only Kaleva/CWT and TravelLink. So what's your interpretation of my personal favorite RVAFI2? :-) |
Originally Posted by FFlash
(Post 24527263)
V Vidudus class.
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Actually I forgot F. You can book a codeshare F too.
F Fabulous for fanbois with FOC (see Glossary if you don't get it) |
F is upgrade bucket on AY, so it's F - Free lunch
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
(Post 24533335)
F is upgrade bucket on AY, so it's F - Free lunch
And it goes with the melody of "it's a Free ride, when you've already paid" when applied to overbooked Y ;) |
Originally Posted by FFlash
(Post 24532696)
Actually I forgot F. You can book a codeshare F too.
F Fabulous for fanbois with FOC (see Glossary if you don't get it) |
Isn't F used indistintically for J upgrades, J awards and Y awards?
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Econ award is X. Business award is U.
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So as you can all tell I am a newbie here. I have just been reading through various threads when I stumbled upon a real gem. The Q code class brought light to the gem of a thread again.
"Q Questions –class ticket for bikey Aussies traveling econometric to Rovaniemi" I sure hope I can travel as a businessperson one day :) |
Originally Posted by FFlash
(Post 24527263)
Why do the fare class codes need to be so cryptic?
I was killing time on my longhaul and tried to come up with a more easily understandable fare class codes. Here we go an example for AY: J Jingle bells – I got a seat in minicabin with lots of op-up friends from BKK! C Coffin class feels better with Champagne and Cake D Dough. I paid too much for that stripped off service. I I want to get that saver ticket! Y Your overpriced Pro-fessional friend B Bullsh** - what’s the point? H Hilarious!!! Pay 600€ one-way and get a bus! R Rich people’s company policy fare code Z Zodiac syndrome, my upgrade did not clear! O Oh my, aircraft switch and I lost my exit-row seat… Q Questions –class ticket for bikey Aussies traveling econometric to Rovaniemi N Nasty class. Your unofficial soft perk newspaper did not arrive. S Shorthaul sucker. To be avoided on long-haul. V Vidudus class. L Lame class. Therefore thou shall be thrilled of that free blueberry juice. K Karjaluokka. ‘cause there is no translation to that feeling. M Murphy class. Something will go wrong. P P…stä. Another untranslatable experience. Only for native Finns. T Terrible class. Everything else feels terrific after this. E “Enhanced for Emeralds” class: you earn 0 on AY, but 100% with codeshare A A bummer: 25% pts on AY, but 300% if codeshare W Double-vidudus class, in order words, whY am I doing this again? G Gee-class = “gee, at least I got a qualifying leg!” |
I'm going to hell for asking. Oh wait, I don't believe in it.
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Originally Posted by citro
(Post 25382728)
All that info for class codes sounds quite silly and not been provided with the real information for people to understand what they all means. However if its just nothing more then a joke it is your stuff. But i would rather see the real information rather then making silly jokes about each of them codes. But hey it is your stuff not mine :)
I have been reading your threads here, but so far I have been lazy to reply. Now that you are somehow part of the fare class tutorial, I want to clarify to you that the first post here is a sarcastic post. We Finns use sarcasm quite often in similar situations like I was when writing this in deep depression waiting for my plane. If you don't like the humor, just ignore it. If you want a complete serious fare code tutorial, I don't know where to find it. If I did, I could have easily made a wiki tutorial on top of this thread. Happy travels! PS: to your original Question: "Karjaluokka" is Finnish and literally translates into "cattle class", i.e. economy class, aka coach/tourist/bulk/mass/sneeze/whatever-class |
Originally Posted by cistavoda
(Post 25382791)
I'm going to hell for asking. Oh wait, I don't believe in it.
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This is hilarious FFlash, I'm glad I found it and thanks for the laugh ^
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Now that I have run U and X for the first time, I add them on the list
U - Utopy class. Unachievable without credit card churn X - Xmas gift. Your friend when cash price ticket has risen wAY above your pocket |
I'm suggesting an adjustment or addendum to the original. These fare interpretaions are mostly suited for shorthauls.
I - Inferior class. You are seated in row one but chances are they deplane through back door and you will be the last one off. D - Dough class. I paid too much for that stripped off service. C - Cocktail Cabin Class. "I wonder if I can drink enough to make this ticket worth the money". (alternative: Company pays class, and I don't care. ) J - "Jumalauta, that's like 3 times more expensive than Inferior class!" |
Valid on E90:
C - Cosy class. We will void any seat block privileges so you won't feel lonely up there on row 1. |
Originally Posted by intuition
(Post 25556900)
C - Cocktail Cabin Class. "I wonder if I can drink enough to make this ticket worth the money". (alternative: Company pays class, and I don't care. )
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These fare class meanings are great. I do have a quick question just for confirmation. I have done a lot of searching and want to confirm that X is the economy reward fare and U is the business reward fare for AY? Is there another code for business rewards, I never seem to see U rewards available?
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X and U is indeed economy and business award fare class. If you are searching on sites like expertflyer, I don't think you can see U availability ever.
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There's also F, which is business class for upgrades. A bit different from U, of course.
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Originally Posted by FFlash
(Post 24527263)
Q Questions –class ticket for bikey Aussies traveling econometric to Rovaniemi
But would there be bisnetic class for a normal person like me and can I stay at the Changi airport hotel? |
Originally Posted by intuition
(Post 25556900)
I - Inferior class. You are seated in row one but chances are they deplane through back door and you will be the last one off. I will let our friend intuition to invent a fair explanation to it, he will certainly have warmed loose his verbal tongue after another famous C1-C3 trip ;) all on A350! (will it ever happen twice?) |
You all must have googled this somewhat outdated(?) pdf: http://media.finnair.com/files/pdf/F...l_Agencies.pdf
I still find it useful every now and then, e.g. when decrypting what my travel agent is offering me. |
Added a Wiki. Thought it would help for people asking multiple times these.
BTW OT, I reckon that one of our friends cracked her case quite fast, her posting became very short last time? ;) I kinda miss her :confused: |
Originally Posted by FFlash
(Post 26644495)
BTW OT, I reckon that one of our friends cracked her case quite fast, her posting became very short last time? ;) I kinda miss her :confused:
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Hei, be very careful what use wish for! It might come true :td:
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
(Post 26645511)
Hei, be very careful what use wish for! It might come true :td:
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Missing W for Campaign? Also presumably A and G, though I don't recall seeing them lately.
Could maybe add explain the fare basis to differentiate ticket types, also? |
Was just checking some availabilities on Expertflyer and have noticed that there is a booking class "E" for AY flights. And while the normal, cheapo Y booking classes are all zeroed out or some of them even closed, this one is listed last in the list and there is still availability.
Any of you might know what kind of ticket books into "E" class? Does it earn anything to AY+? BTW, this is only out of curiosity... |
Hi
I am offered a Y to Business class upgrade for my incoming flight. In the wiki, this relates to F class. But my OW program (QF) does not list F as a qualifying fare for status and mileage. If I do accept, do you know if my booking will go to F then losing whatever status credit and mileage that my original Y ticket was commanding ? Thx for your insight ! |
Originally Posted by mogoy
(Post 27603679)
But my OW program (QF) does not list F as a qualifying for status and mileage.
If I do accept, do you know if my booking will go to F then losing whatever status credit and mileage than my original Y ticket was commanding ? |
Thx for the quick feed back, much appreciated !
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Originally Posted by Steve_Hun
(Post 27601788)
Any of you might know what kind of ticket books into "E" class? Does it earn anything to AY+? BTW, this is only out of curiosity...
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Originally Posted by lkrt
(Post 27604128)
I believe this is the non-rev "fare". So no earnings and no way to get it.
No earnings, miles/points/sectors - nada. |
Thanks lkrt & ff_flyer! I knew I can count on the wisdom of FT :)
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I had once bk E. That was when I was invited to new and first A340-300 OH-LQA to Oulu and back with two lovely ladies from AY. Great trip. ^
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG
(Post 27604472)
I had once bk E. That was when I was invited to new and first A340-300 OH-LQA to Oulu and back with two lovely ladies from AY. Great trip. ^
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