May 18, 2016, 9:36 am
Last edit by: cistavoda
Finnair sells "ticket types" instead of booking classes. The various ticket types can overlap in booking class, but they differ in service level and fare terms.
The ticket types are not sold on destinations covered by joint ventures, ie Japan and NA.
Economy tickets:
Light: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L
Basic: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L
Value: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L, K, M
Pro: Y, B, H
[P, T, R and W Economy class fares have been removed in April 2019 in preparation for the launch of Premium Economy in 2021.]
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/finn...-2021-a-2.html
Premium Economy (from 2021):
P, T, R, W
Business Saver: I (long-haul)
Business: J, C, D (and I for shorthaul in Europe)
Economy award: X
Premium economy award & upgraded: F
Business award & upgraded: U
Light is a handbag-only fare, currently only offered in shorthaul operations (Europe and Middle East).
In addition to the above six fare families there is one additional ticket type called Saver, which contains restricted starting-from fares in the lowest booking classes in fares from Asia and North America.
For deeper insights, see this user guide link
The ticket types are not sold on destinations covered by joint ventures, ie Japan and NA.
Economy tickets:
Light: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L
Basic: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L
Value: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L, K, M
Pro: Y, B, H
[P, T, R and W Economy class fares have been removed in April 2019 in preparation for the launch of Premium Economy in 2021.]
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/finn...-2021-a-2.html
Premium Economy (from 2021):
P, T, R, W
Business Saver: I (long-haul)
Business: J, C, D (and I for shorthaul in Europe)
Economy award: X
Premium economy award & upgraded: F
Business award & upgraded: U
Light is a handbag-only fare, currently only offered in shorthaul operations (Europe and Middle East).
In addition to the above six fare families there is one additional ticket type called Saver, which contains restricted starting-from fares in the lowest booking classes in fares from Asia and North America.
For deeper insights, see this user guide link
Fare class tutorial
Mar 27, 2019 | 2:17 pm
#136
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 2,049
I'm not sure why you went for OWS on both AY and BA instead of attempting OWE on either airline.
Mar 27, 2019 | 3:15 pm
#137
Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: BAEC/AY
Posts: 10
Yup, I should but this was specifically interesting as the booking is Premium Economy (which is really nice for BA tier points, but don't know how they rack up for AY) on BA and shows Eco T on Finnair, and I Wasn't able to decipher the exact tier point amounts, hence askihn for advise
The reason behind the double OWS is a whole different thing, but suffice to say , OWE was not in the cards
The reason behind the double OWS is a whole different thing, but suffice to say , OWE was not in the cards
Mar 27, 2019 | 5:02 pm
#138
Join Date: Jan 2011
Programs: * Alliance I oneworld I Marriott Bonvoy I Hilton Honors I WoH I Accor ALL I IHG One Rewards
Posts: 2,365
Quick question. I am booked on BA for Premium Economy from LHR to Toronto. When inputting my Finnair FF number, it shows the ticket class as Economy T. How many points am I getting from this flight ( the calculator is not working for some reason). I am Finnair Gold and BA Silver- which would net me more points?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
With BA, you will get 180TP and 10659 Avios including Silver bonus.
I do not know when your flight is but BA will put new CW suites to Toronto route in autumn, if available you can use Avios to upgrade.
Mar 28, 2019 | 12:33 am
#139
Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: BAEC/AY
Posts: 10
Thansk,
This is exactly what I was wondering. As 180/ 600 is quite a bit terms of tier points to OWS vs 11K/80K for Finnair. Seems that for maintaining OWE for BA, it's almost 1/3 of required points where as for Finnair the same flight is only roughly 1/8 of required points.
This is exactly what I was wondering. As 180/ 600 is quite a bit terms of tier points to OWS vs 11K/80K for Finnair. Seems that for maintaining OWE for BA, it's almost 1/3 of required points where as for Finnair the same flight is only roughly 1/8 of required points.
Last edited by dietervonbuck; Mar 28, 2019 at 4:23 am
Mar 30, 2019 | 4:37 am
#141
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 522
Mar 30, 2019 | 4:39 am
#142
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: spg ltp, ihg, all, hilton. OWS, STE+, *G
Posts: 5,997
Yes, the math is correct. All ffp have their sweet spots and achilles' heals. PE is one of the weaker points with AY. This will surely change once AY introduces PE on its fleet.
Apr 1, 2019 | 1:31 am
#144
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AY+ Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,846
I thought I understood Finnairs fare classes, but maybe I dont.
I had some flights that I thought were Value fares that should earn 100% but they have credited at 50%. I went back and checked, and it looks like I booked a standard class ticket. Is standard not value? The fare bases for the flights are QLN7T7M5 and NKX8F7M5.
I am assuming that a ticket with fare basis ZVA2FI is a Value fare. Thanks in advance for the clarifications.
I had some flights that I thought were Value fares that should earn 100% but they have credited at 50%. I went back and checked, and it looks like I booked a standard class ticket. Is standard not value? The fare bases for the flights are QLN7T7M5 and NKX8F7M5.
I am assuming that a ticket with fare basis ZVA2FI is a Value fare. Thanks in advance for the clarifications.
Apr 1, 2019 | 6:04 am
#146
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AY+ Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,846
Got it. So I guess for NA flights, it goes by fare code (N, Q, etc.). Will have to pay better attention in the future. Thank you for the quick reply.
Apr 1, 2019 | 7:34 am
#147
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: Finnair (AY) Platinum, Air France Silver, Tallink Club One Silver :)
Posts: 1,655
Yep, with both the Trans-Atlantic and the Japanese cartel, Finnair is not allowed (?) / willing (?) to use their regular ticket types and makes it rather difficult to book a 100% earning ticket, even if you'd be willing to fork out a little extra money, like in the case of light/basic/value fare families.
Apr 8, 2019 | 12:54 pm
#149
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Gold
Posts: 3,640
The wiki should be updated to reflect the ongoing reincarnation of P, T, E and W or whichever they were. I could do it myself, except that, as a non-pro customer, I have not gotten the proper documentation 
Apr 9, 2019 | 12:21 pm
#150
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Plat, SAS EBG, and several other cards
Posts: 733
Edit: Fake news
At least Z, O and Q are still cheaper than N
Last edited by Purjelentaja; Apr 9, 2019 at 1:26 pm