Last edit by: cistavoda
Finnair sells "ticket types" instead of booking classes. The various ticket types can overlap in booking class, but they differ in service level and fare terms.
The ticket types are not sold on destinations covered by joint ventures, ie Japan and NA.
Economy tickets:
Light: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L
Basic: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L
Value: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L, K, M
Pro: Y, B, H
[P, T, R and W Economy class fares have been removed in April 2019 in preparation for the launch of Premium Economy in 2021.]
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/finn...-2021-a-2.html
Premium Economy (from 2021):
P, T, R, W
Business Saver: I (long-haul)
Business: J, C, D (and I for shorthaul in Europe)
Economy award: X
Premium economy award & upgraded: F
Business award & upgraded: U
Light is a handbag-only fare, currently only offered in shorthaul operations (Europe and Middle East).
In addition to the above six fare families there is one additional ticket type called Saver, which contains restricted starting-from fares in the lowest booking classes in fares from Asia and North America.
For deeper insights, see this user guide link
The ticket types are not sold on destinations covered by joint ventures, ie Japan and NA.
Economy tickets:
Light: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L
Basic: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L
Value: Z, O, Q, N, S, V, L, K, M
Pro: Y, B, H
[P, T, R and W Economy class fares have been removed in April 2019 in preparation for the launch of Premium Economy in 2021.]
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/finn...-2021-a-2.html
Premium Economy (from 2021):
P, T, R, W
Business Saver: I (long-haul)
Business: J, C, D (and I for shorthaul in Europe)
Economy award: X
Premium economy award & upgraded: F
Business award & upgraded: U
Light is a handbag-only fare, currently only offered in shorthaul operations (Europe and Middle East).
In addition to the above six fare families there is one additional ticket type called Saver, which contains restricted starting-from fares in the lowest booking classes in fares from Asia and North America.
For deeper insights, see this user guide link
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#166
Join Date: Apr 2019
Programs: AY Platinum/OWE
Posts: 195
Hi
I was just in contact with trip.com to find out which Business fare class they would book me into on Finnnair for HKG-LHR-HKG return. Am I correct that they can only book me into a Business fare class (J, C, D or I) that is shown on Cathay's app as being eligible for Asia Miles + Club Points?
Or is there some risk that they may have access to some other Business fare class that is ineligible for Cathay Club Points?
The chat support person couldn't help me unless I'd already booked it... at which point it's a bit late to find out.
Thanks for any insight. I'm not an expert on Finnair and want to accrue the points to Cathay.
I was just in contact with trip.com to find out which Business fare class they would book me into on Finnnair for HKG-LHR-HKG return. Am I correct that they can only book me into a Business fare class (J, C, D or I) that is shown on Cathay's app as being eligible for Asia Miles + Club Points?
Or is there some risk that they may have access to some other Business fare class that is ineligible for Cathay Club Points?
The chat support person couldn't help me unless I'd already booked it... at which point it's a bit late to find out.
Thanks for any insight. I'm not an expert on Finnair and want to accrue the points to Cathay.
#167




Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: HEL
Programs: SK EBD, AY Plat, LH FTL
Posts: 1,171
I thought that ticket types are not used on flight between Finland and NA (and the same applies to Japan) until my recent experience. I had a campaign ticket between HEL and ORD and received only 2500 points / flight. Booking class was O and fare basis O1CGF1B4. I was expecting that there would be no ticket type and I would get the points according to the booking class, but CS told me that as a campaign ticket it will earn only 25% points.
Quite disappointing that a ticket type that give less points is available, but a ticket type giving more points (Value) is not available.
Quite disappointing that a ticket type that give less points is available, but a ticket type giving more points (Value) is not available.
#169
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT Executive, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 10,290
#170

Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 75
I had O class ticket to JFK and I also got only 25% points. Fare basis was O1CGF1B4, same as post 167. I don't remember what was ticket type when I booked it but ticket type was light in confirmation email.
#172
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#174
Join Date: Apr 2019
Programs: AY Platinum/OWE
Posts: 195
Another dose of AY inconsistency.....
I bought a sale/campaign fare to JPN in class Q and it credit as 5k as supposed. Those JFK fares crediting as 2,5k is completely against the general crediting rules. It shouldnt be so hard for AY to play by the rules they set themselves.
I bought a sale/campaign fare to JPN in class Q and it credit as 5k as supposed. Those JFK fares crediting as 2,5k is completely against the general crediting rules. It shouldnt be so hard for AY to play by the rules they set themselves.
#176




Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: HEL
Programs: SK EBD, AY Plat, LH FTL
Posts: 1,171
Yet I've had the same experience: 25% earnings on a Campaign ticket to ORD. I asked the Plat desk to fix it, but they said it's correct because it was a Campaign ticket.
It's so disappointing that they apply the ticket type when it reduces earnings, even though the ticket types are not otherwise used on Trans-Atlantic flights.
It's so disappointing that they apply the ticket type when it reduces earnings, even though the ticket types are not otherwise used on Trans-Atlantic flights.
#177


Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Gold
Posts: 3,640
Just because there's no ticket types on JV routes does not mean that there's no campaign fares. On non-JV routes, booking codes for Light and Value can earn as Campaign. If I recall correctly it shows with a 0 inserted in the fare basis.
Also "Light" as nothing to do with Finnair ticket types on JV routes. It's a fare class of the JV. It just so happens to have the same name for the same reasons, bag allowance. With that said, I don't know how the Campaign criteria is coded in the fare basis for the transatlantic JV, nor the Japan one for that matter. And I would hardly be surprised if there was no ways whatsoever to see it before payment.
Admittedly, it does contradict the Finnair Plus published rules that tickets without types earn according solely to the booking code. But it would not be the first time that the fare basis leads to lower earnings than expected: it was already happening with AB-operated code-shares TOUR fares (when AB was still a thing). They really should stick to W code for transatlantic campaigns.
Also "Light" as nothing to do with Finnair ticket types on JV routes. It's a fare class of the JV. It just so happens to have the same name for the same reasons, bag allowance. With that said, I don't know how the Campaign criteria is coded in the fare basis for the transatlantic JV, nor the Japan one for that matter. And I would hardly be surprised if there was no ways whatsoever to see it before payment.
Admittedly, it does contradict the Finnair Plus published rules that tickets without types earn according solely to the booking code. But it would not be the first time that the fare basis leads to lower earnings than expected: it was already happening with AB-operated code-shares TOUR fares (when AB was still a thing). They really should stick to W code for transatlantic campaigns.
#179


Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY Platinum
Posts: 6,322
#180
Join Date: Apr 2019
Programs: AY Platinum/OWE
Posts: 195
I fully agree. It is true that the TATL and JPN JV agreements could include difference clauses affecting the earnings, but it should be up to AY to market them transparently with an appropriate fare code there are plenty of 25% letters available in the earning table.



