Mar 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
Last edit by: Marschel
Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while -offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348, 348, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348, 348 (290 on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69
PRG-HEL ≈70
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69, 7k, 69
HEL-CPH 69, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69
HEL-CDG 69, 69, 69
CDG-HEL 89
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69
FRA-HEL 69, 89, 89
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109
HEL-MAD 89, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69
HEL-WAW 79
WAW-HEL 79
DUS-HEL 69
HEL-OSL 42
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115 (01/20)
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while -offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348, 348, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348, 348 (290 on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69
PRG-HEL ≈70
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69, 7k, 69
HEL-CPH 69, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69
HEL-CDG 69, 69, 69
CDG-HEL 89
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69
FRA-HEL 69, 89, 89
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109
HEL-MAD 89, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69
HEL-WAW 79
WAW-HEL 79
DUS-HEL 69
HEL-OSL 42
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115 (01/20)
Please post your upgrade offers
May 11, 2015 | 11:12 am
#92
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
Posts: 5,818
City-pair: BKK-HEL AY90
Price offered: 348 EUR
Flight date: 2015 MAY xx
FF tier on reservation: ows
Original ticket type: campaign
When the offer was made: 14 days before take off
How the offer was made: E-Mail
Price offered: 348 EUR
Flight date: 2015 MAY xx
FF tier on reservation: ows
Original ticket type: campaign
When the offer was made: 14 days before take off
How the offer was made: E-Mail
May 12, 2015 | 3:23 am
#93
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 2,402
I was on the same flight with wife. We had an award trip and were not offered anything.
May 12, 2015 | 8:26 am
#95
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,490
I know LH and LX do, I wish AY would.
I've been on some BRU-HEL flights at peak holiday times where J was 5-6 rows full. No difference whatsoever from Y, they don't even close the curtain. Even been served out of plastic tumblers in J on the E90s.
I've been on some BRU-HEL flights at peak holiday times where J was 5-6 rows full. No difference whatsoever from Y, they don't even close the curtain. Even been served out of plastic tumblers in J on the E90s.
May 12, 2015 | 11:28 am
#96
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: AF Ultimate/AY plat/SK EBG/LH SEN/HYATT Globalist/MR LTP/A3 *G/HH Dia/IHG plat
Posts: 8,586
I think AY know how I feel about them and their "J" as I have never received one of these "offers" not even once while I know others on the same flight have ��
May 12, 2015 | 1:01 pm
#98
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, HH Diamond, CC Gold
Posts: 111
City-pair: HEL-CPH AY661
Price offered: 69 EUR
Flight date: 2015 MAY
FF tier on reservation: OWS (AA Plat)
Original ticket type: Campaign, Light, O
When the offer was made: 7 days before take off
How the offer was made: E-Mail
Price offered: 69 EUR
Flight date: 2015 MAY
FF tier on reservation: OWS (AA Plat)
Original ticket type: Campaign, Light, O
When the offer was made: 7 days before take off
How the offer was made: E-Mail
May 13, 2015 | 12:19 pm
#99
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: HEL
Programs: No more status, free agent now
Posts: 163
City-pair: HEL-BCN, BCN-HEL (4 hour flight)
Price offered: 69 EUR each way
Flight date: 2015 MAY
FF tier on reservation: OWE
Original ticket type: Basic, R
When the offer was made: 10 days before each flight, valid for 48 hours
How the offer was made: E-Mail
I personally consider this a downgrade, as I put very high value on exit row seats (allows working with laptop, comfy with leg room), compared to normal rows in front or worst case row 1 bulkhead with limited leg room.
I have experienced gate "upgrade" from exit row to row 1 bulkhead before... If that happens again I'll probably offer to swap with whoever got the exit row seat ;-)
I don't care much about J food or drink on shorthaul. Longhaul is a totally different game, I would consider any reasonable upgrade offer seriously.
Price offered: 69 EUR each way
Flight date: 2015 MAY
FF tier on reservation: OWE
Original ticket type: Basic, R
When the offer was made: 10 days before each flight, valid for 48 hours
How the offer was made: E-Mail
I personally consider this a downgrade, as I put very high value on exit row seats (allows working with laptop, comfy with leg room), compared to normal rows in front or worst case row 1 bulkhead with limited leg room.
I have experienced gate "upgrade" from exit row to row 1 bulkhead before... If that happens again I'll probably offer to swap with whoever got the exit row seat ;-)
I don't care much about J food or drink on shorthaul. Longhaul is a totally different game, I would consider any reasonable upgrade offer seriously.
May 19, 2015 | 12:53 am
#100
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat
Posts: 3,633
City-pair: HEL-HAM AY853
Price offered: 69 EUR
Flight date: 2015 MAY
FF tier on reservation: OWS (AY+G)
Original ticket type: Value, R
When the offer was made: 10 days before take off
How the offer was made: E-Mail
Price offered: 69 EUR
Flight date: 2015 MAY
FF tier on reservation: OWS (AY+G)
Original ticket type: Value, R
When the offer was made: 10 days before take off
How the offer was made: E-Mail
May 19, 2015 | 2:33 am
#102
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,490
City-pair: BRU-HEL AY812
Price offered: 69 EUR
Flight date: 2015 MAY
FF tier on reservation: OWS/AY+ Gold (not mine
)
Original ticket type: Value, R
When the offer was made: 2 weeks in advance
How the offer was made: E-Mail
Price offered: 69 EUR
Flight date: 2015 MAY
FF tier on reservation: OWS/AY+ Gold (not mine
)Original ticket type: Value, R
When the offer was made: 2 weeks in advance
How the offer was made: E-Mail
May 20, 2015 | 7:40 am
#103
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,145
City-pair and/or flight number: HEL-BKK AY089
Price offered: 348
Flight date: JUN 15
FF tier on reservation: AY Plat
Original ticket type: Value R
When the offer was made: 2 weeks before
How the offer was made: email
Price offered: 348
Flight date: JUN 15
FF tier on reservation: AY Plat
Original ticket type: Value R
When the offer was made: 2 weeks before
How the offer was made: email
May 20, 2015 | 8:15 am
#105
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,145