Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Finnair | Finnair Plus
Reload this Page >

Delay problems of AY69 / AY99 HEL-HKG

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Delay problems of AY69 / AY99 HEL-HKG

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 6, 2020, 12:38 pm
  #76  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,756
Originally Posted by Rivarix
Is this due to a spare/extra A359 around or is the plane becoming more reliable? I guess I'm trying to figure out whether the improvement is permanent (due to A359 increase reliability) or temporary (due to spare A359 which will eventually be deployed elsewhere). AY99 is always a gamble but with better odds, I may give it a try again.
When will you be flying?

At the moment. AY has 3-4 aircraft idling daily because they’ve cancelled flights to mainland China because of the flu.

Moreover, it sounds to me like AY is not only targeting HKG anymore. Back when they decided to fly to Dubai via Egyptian airspace instead of the more direct route via Iran, this led to delays on the midnight A350 services, and they delayed both HKG and SIN, on alternating days. So it does sound like HKG isn’t the victim all the time.
ffay005 is offline  
Old Feb 6, 2020, 1:13 pm
  #77  
Ambassador: Finnair
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Lumo, BA Silver, HHonors Gold
Posts: 4,270
Originally Posted by ffay005
Has anyone been on HKG flights lately? What have the loads been like now during the Chinese flu?
Haven’t flown myself now but heard from others that actually not that bad at all, not full but definitely not empty either...maybe AY is getting some add. pax as so much cancellations to mainland. HKG virus situation is also not too bad so those who need to go are still going..
NoWindowSeat is offline  
Old Feb 6, 2020, 1:47 pm
  #78  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,756
Originally Posted by NoWindowSeat
Haven’t flown myself now but heard from others that actually not that bad at all, not full but definitely not empty either...maybe AY is getting some add. pax as so much cancellations to mainland. HKG virus situation is also not too bad so those who need to go are still going..
I’m glad to hear this. Many airlines have stopped flying to HKG so perhaps they reroute pax on AY.

In this case, it’s a huge advantage that CC is outsourced to HKG. North American Airlines in particular have problems with HKG flights because crews refuse to fly there.
ffay005 is offline  
Old Feb 6, 2020, 1:53 pm
  #79  
Ambassador: Finnair
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Lumo, BA Silver, HHonors Gold
Posts: 4,270



Tonight’s 99 one hour before departure looks like above so loads are not crazy bad... Y+ seems empty, though..
ffay005 likes this.
NoWindowSeat is offline  
Old Feb 6, 2020, 3:10 pm
  #80  
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Gold
Posts: 77
Originally Posted by NoWindowSeat
Y+ seems empty, though..
That new pricing seems to work.
intuition, FFlash, loimu and 1 others like this.
Antx is offline  
Old Feb 19, 2020, 5:54 am
  #81  
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: EWR
Programs: CX Green | UA Silver | Marriott Lifetime Platinum | Hyatt Globalist | Hilton Gold | AA EXP
Posts: 813
Originally Posted by ffay005
When will you be flying?

At the moment. AY has 3-4 aircraft idling daily because they’ve cancelled flights to mainland China because of the flu.
It will be in the summer ... assuming all these flu stuffs calm down. Otherwise, I'll skip HKG and stopover in Japan.
Rivarix is offline  
Old Feb 16, 2023, 5:11 pm
  #82  
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 15
Thought that this was a problem of the past due to COVID... turns out it recovered too.
AY99 delayed on 25 Jan for 5 hours, saved by AY62 from Tokyo this time.

And due to a longer route, AY99/100 is no longer doable in a 24 hour turn. Interesting to see how things will play out again
BKPB is offline  
Old Feb 16, 2023, 9:45 pm
  #83  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Plat (OWE), SK EBG (*A Gold), KQ Plat (STE+), Accor Plat
Posts: 3,157
I wouldn’t be convinced or even worried of the trend returning by a one-off delay.
OH-LGG likes this.
lkrt is offline  
Old Feb 16, 2023, 10:57 pm
  #84  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,059
Originally Posted by BKPB
Thought that this was a problem of the past due to COVID... turns out it recovered too.
AY99 delayed on 25 Jan for 5 hours, saved by AY62 from Tokyo this time.

And due to a longer route, AY99/100 is no longer doable in a 24 hour turn. Interesting to see how things will play out again
AY99/100 never was 24 hour turn -route. That delay was due to 2 x A359's out of service in Asia.

And in this new world those 24 hrs turns are history. Now new world and new strategy.
OH-LGG is offline  
Old Feb 17, 2023, 12:15 am
  #85  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Plat Lumo, SK Gold
Posts: 954
Originally Posted by BKPB
Thought that this was a problem of the past due to COVID... turns out it recovered too.
I'd guess it was just bad luck this time. Currently AY99/AY100 has a few hours turnaround in HKG and departing HEL with a delay will result in a delay coming back as well. The situation isn't any different to the other AY longhauls departing HEL around midnight.

Pre-covid the turnaround time in HKG was so long, that whenever there was an A350 missing, the problem was moved to AY99, as thanks to the long turnaround AY100 could still depart back on time.

Originally Posted by OH-LGG
Now new world and new strategy.
Did you mean: Now new world and no strategy?
ffay005, OH-LGG, florens and 2 others like this.
r2d2 is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.