Apr 24, 2013, 9:59 am
Last edit by: Beltway2A
First attempt at a wiki, so feel free to wiki away at it (add blogs, add links, etc, etc):
Censors:
Delta Points (Rens Points)
Frugal Travel Guy
Milesabound - censors himself on rants
milesforfamily
MileValue
Million Mile Secrets
Very Good Points
Point Me To The Plane
Flyertalk
Travel Blogger Buzz - (proof is TBBs own words here)
TravelSkills
The Points Guy
The Points of Life
GodSaveThePoints
One Mile at a Time
Does Not Censor:
First2Board
Fishing4Deals
Food, Wine, and Miles
Hack My Trip
Head for Points
Miles From Blighty
Miles To The Wild
Points Summary
The Points Jock - Bill of Rights +1
ThreadTripping
Traveling Well For Less
Wald Around The World
Will Run For Miles
Doctor of Credit
View From the Wing
Censors:
Delta Points (Rens Points)
Frugal Travel Guy
Milesabound - censors himself on rants
milesforfamily
MileValue
Million Mile Secrets
Very Good Points
Point Me To The Plane
Flyertalk
Travel Blogger Buzz - (proof is TBBs own words here)
TravelSkills
The Points Guy
The Points of Life
GodSaveThePoints
One Mile at a Time
Does Not Censor:
First2Board
Fishing4Deals
Food, Wine, and Miles
Hack My Trip
Head for Points
Miles From Blighty
Miles To The Wild
Points Summary
The Points Jock - Bill of Rights +1
ThreadTripping
Traveling Well For Less
Wald Around The World
Will Run For Miles
Doctor of Credit
View From the Wing
Which miles and points blogs censor comments?
Nov 18, 2013 | 9:48 am
#391
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There are no rules, you can censor or not censor as much as you like. Personally, I think as bloggers we should censor and think George should censor more, I said as much to him.
One thing I don't understand is why you are avoiding the matter at hand though, that you know there is a difference between censoring in order to protect your own financial gain and censoring to protect readers from spam, or keep your personal information personal.
I actually don't mind if people censor to hide the truth from their readers that they are intentionally deleting comments that would alert them to the inferior offers being sold to them, it is a business and it is yours to run as you see fit.
But I would have more respect for the people who do this if they had the gumption to stand up and say it rather than try to play games like this one, trying to set a trap for TBB and hide their intentions.
Frankly, I ignored the TBB posts about FTG and your site, along with others he doesn't like as irrelevant to me, but seeing the way in which you and Ingy are trying to discredit him and divert attention from this has made me think less of both of you.
I'd recommend moving on and ignoring it, there is no real harm being done to DP or FTG from TBB, but every time that one of you actually bites at it and does something to 'get even' it shows you in a worse light than his blog ever could.
Just my 2 cents.
One thing I don't understand is why you are avoiding the matter at hand though, that you know there is a difference between censoring in order to protect your own financial gain and censoring to protect readers from spam, or keep your personal information personal.
I actually don't mind if people censor to hide the truth from their readers that they are intentionally deleting comments that would alert them to the inferior offers being sold to them, it is a business and it is yours to run as you see fit.
But I would have more respect for the people who do this if they had the gumption to stand up and say it rather than try to play games like this one, trying to set a trap for TBB and hide their intentions.
Frankly, I ignored the TBB posts about FTG and your site, along with others he doesn't like as irrelevant to me, but seeing the way in which you and Ingy are trying to discredit him and divert attention from this has made me think less of both of you.
I'd recommend moving on and ignoring it, there is no real harm being done to DP or FTG from TBB, but every time that one of you actually bites at it and does something to 'get even' it shows you in a worse light than his blog ever could.
Just my 2 cents.
Nov 18, 2013 | 12:02 pm
#392
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We should change the title of this thread to:
Which miles and points blogs censor comments for the reason of keeping the reader of the comments in the dark about monetization practices that do not have the readers best interest at heart.
It's a little lengthy and loses some of the Zip I agree, but otherwise what we have is more than two categories - everyone censors spam, some people censor personal information, some people censor profanity, some people censor comments that challenge the ethics of the post.
Are all these things equal?
Which miles and points blogs censor comments for the reason of keeping the reader of the comments in the dark about monetization practices that do not have the readers best interest at heart.
It's a little lengthy and loses some of the Zip I agree, but otherwise what we have is more than two categories - everyone censors spam, some people censor personal information, some people censor profanity, some people censor comments that challenge the ethics of the post.
Are all these things equal?
FWIW, I like TBB and the cheeky way it takes on the points and miles blog-o-sphere.
And it doesn't surprise me in the least that folks are going after him personally for it. He should take it as a compliment. It means he's being effective!
Nov 18, 2013 | 1:26 pm
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Why not ask George what his motivating for censoring was? I can almost with 100% confidence George was not just censoring to protect personal information. I'm suggesting in fact George censored for fear of financial loss. Seems a bit of a double standard again to go after people for trying to achieve financial gain, but ok to censor to prevent financial loss? Again if George wasn't so over the top with his constant criticism, most would give him a pass. But when the truth finally comes to light, you'll see why I can, have and will continue to call him hypocritical to the max. Read between the lines people.
He criticizes bloggers who think about their own pockets before their readers' interests. If he was providing bogus financial advice for his clients for personal gain, you would have every right to call him whatever you want, but I don't think that is the case here.
Anywho, I think you are just a troll that should be ignored. You are just an "angry" because he bashes the blog that you don't own anymore for good reasons while praising others such as FM or DD.
Last edited by satz; Nov 18, 2013 at 1:33 pm
Nov 18, 2013 | 1:48 pm
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I find this thread extremely amusing:
1) for what ever reason, ingy is OBSESSED with trying to publish George's full name. Its odd actually. Interestingly, there doesn't seem to be an issue with DP's full name not public. a bit hypocritical.
2) both ingy and DP seem REALLY angry and bitter about TBB. Yet, they love calling everyone else angry?
3) the two blogs who proudly sensored the most, often to prevent their readers from getting the best deal, are suddenly the censor police?
IDK, its odd. but hey, angries will be angries i suppose
1) for what ever reason, ingy is OBSESSED with trying to publish George's full name. Its odd actually. Interestingly, there doesn't seem to be an issue with DP's full name not public. a bit hypocritical.
2) both ingy and DP seem REALLY angry and bitter about TBB. Yet, they love calling everyone else angry?
3) the two blogs who proudly sensored the most, often to prevent their readers from getting the best deal, are suddenly the censor police?
IDK, its odd. but hey, angries will be angries i suppose
Nov 18, 2013 | 1:59 pm
#395
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Agree that that is one of the Cardinal Sins of blogging, going hand-in-hand with a blogger who posts deals where better deals exist and they know it, but they get paid for the less-good deal so promote the less-good deal instead.
FWIW, I like TBB and the cheeky way it takes on the points and miles blog-o-sphere.
And it doesn't surprise me in the least that folks are going after him personally for it. He should take it as a compliment. It means he's being effective!
FWIW, I like TBB and the cheeky way it takes on the points and miles blog-o-sphere.
And it doesn't surprise me in the least that folks are going after him personally for it. He should take it as a compliment. It means he's being effective!
All Hail TBB!
Nov 18, 2013 | 2:05 pm
#396
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And when you "almost" have 100% confidence, what does that mean? Is it "almost" like how you profess no interest in your former blog that you sold yet kept posting and kept using the same name? And continue to defend it despite it being little more than a sorry excuse to pimp affiliate cards nonstop?
Nov 18, 2013 | 2:34 pm
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Just checking in...
Don't feed the trolls.
I love everyone.
Georgie/TabloidBuzz/Bozo/Sheriff ___(forgot)/angry/hypocritical/etc
Don't feed the trolls.
I love everyone.
Georgie/TabloidBuzz/Bozo/Sheriff ___(forgot)/angry/hypocritical/etc
Nov 18, 2013 | 2:46 pm
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I think you're missing the point.
Some bloggers are deleting comments that alert their readers to the fact that there are better deals for them on credit cards.
Some bloggers are deleting spam or personal attacks (deliberately posting personal info etc)
The two groups are very different, though the former is trying to pull the latter into the same simple two category 'censors' or 'does not censor' in order to achieve one of two things:
Dilution of the negativity of being labeled a censor
Or
Dilution of the integrity of another blog by branding them with the same negative brush.
It's really very simple.
Ps show me a blog in this space with more than 4 readers (including their own family) that isn't monetized.
Some bloggers are deleting comments that alert their readers to the fact that there are better deals for them on credit cards.
Some bloggers are deleting spam or personal attacks (deliberately posting personal info etc)
The two groups are very different, though the former is trying to pull the latter into the same simple two category 'censors' or 'does not censor' in order to achieve one of two things:
Dilution of the negativity of being labeled a censor
Or
Dilution of the integrity of another blog by branding them with the same negative brush.
It's really very simple.
Ps show me a blog in this space with more than 4 readers (including their own family) that isn't monetized.
Nov 18, 2013 | 3:16 pm
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Nov 18, 2013 | 3:36 pm
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I find this thread extremely amusing:
1) for what ever reason, ingy is OBSESSED with trying to publish George's full name. Its odd actually. Interestingly, there doesn't seem to be an issue with DP's full name not public. a bit hypocritical.
2) both ingy and DP seem REALLY angry and bitter about TBB. Yet, they love calling everyone else angry?
3) the two blogs who proudly sensored the most, often to prevent their readers from getting the best deal, are suddenly the censor police?
IDK, its odd. but hey, angries will be angries i suppose
1) for what ever reason, ingy is OBSESSED with trying to publish George's full name. Its odd actually. Interestingly, there doesn't seem to be an issue with DP's full name not public. a bit hypocritical.
2) both ingy and DP seem REALLY angry and bitter about TBB. Yet, they love calling everyone else angry?
3) the two blogs who proudly sensored the most, often to prevent their readers from getting the best deal, are suddenly the censor police?
IDK, its odd. but hey, angries will be angries i suppose
I don't understand people who go into business as a blogger, which by its nature involves putting thoughts out there for people to publicly comment on. Then get miffed when there are negative comments, or when people discuss better deals/offers than what they have available.
A business that sometimes has to say, look, I just can't beat the other guy's deal on this one, will cause me to go back to them in the future and give them a chance again. And in fact I've done that on occasion with brick & mortar establishments. I appreciate being respected as a customer. But a business that pretends they have the best deal when we can all see it's not the case, I likely won't return to.
If a blogger wants to prove critics wrong, my free advice is to show it by actions and how you run your business. Not by following around critics and hassling them personally - name calling and such. That, I can't respect. Just my two cents.
Nov 18, 2013 | 3:52 pm
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Satz, freeloader and farwest
Thanks for your latest comments and opinions. I'd reply but sense George may be signaling a truce and I want to respect that if that is indeed his wishes.
I love you too buddy. We go back a lot of years.
I love you too buddy. We go back a lot of years.
Nov 18, 2013 | 4:03 pm
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Nov 18, 2013 | 4:14 pm
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You have 3 large links to your books on the left side, which you sell, so you make money. Therefore your site is monetized (not saying that is a bad thing at all). And there are some kind souls out there who help out perfect strangers with their blogs... glad you got the image on the right sorted!
Nov 18, 2013 | 4:17 pm
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Somehow I'm be reminded of Single White Female.
I don't understand people who go into business as a blogger, which by its nature involves putting thoughts out there for people to publicly comment on. Then get miffed when there are negative comments, or when people discuss better deals/offers than what they have available.
A business that sometimes has to say, look, I just can't beat the other guy's deal on this one, will cause me to go back to them in the future and give them a chance again. And in fact I've done that on occasion with brick & mortar establishments. I appreciate being respected as a customer. But a business that pretends they have the best deal when we can all see it's not the case, I likely won't return to.
If a blogger wants to prove critics wrong, my free advice is to show it by actions and how you run your business. Not by following around critics and hassling them personally - name calling and such. That, I can't respect. Just my two cents.
I don't understand people who go into business as a blogger, which by its nature involves putting thoughts out there for people to publicly comment on. Then get miffed when there are negative comments, or when people discuss better deals/offers than what they have available.
A business that sometimes has to say, look, I just can't beat the other guy's deal on this one, will cause me to go back to them in the future and give them a chance again. And in fact I've done that on occasion with brick & mortar establishments. I appreciate being respected as a customer. But a business that pretends they have the best deal when we can all see it's not the case, I likely won't return to.
If a blogger wants to prove critics wrong, my free advice is to show it by actions and how you run your business. Not by following around critics and hassling them personally - name calling and such. That, I can't respect. Just my two cents.
Another problem is that some readers expect every blog to be something for everyone, which is not humanly possible in the first place. It really cracks me up when some folks who have been hobbying for 10 years now demand new content to keep them entertained and educated. Trying to keep happy those who know it all is a losing proposition any which way you look at it.
Nov 18, 2013 | 4:24 pm
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You have 3 large links to your books on the left side, which you sell, so you make money. Therefore your site is monetized (not saying that is a bad thing at all). And there are some kind souls out there who help out perfect strangers with their blogs... glad you got the image on the right sorted!
