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Censors:
Delta Points (Rens Points)
Frugal Travel Guy
Milesabound - censors himself on rants
milesforfamily
MileValue
Million Mile Secrets
Very Good Points
Point Me To The Plane
Flyertalk
Travel Blogger Buzz - (proof is TBBs own words here)
TravelSkills
The Points Guy
The Points of Life
GodSaveThePoints
One Mile at a Time


Does Not Censor:
First2Board
Fishing4Deals
Food, Wine, and Miles
Hack My Trip
Head for Points
Miles From Blighty
Miles To The Wild
Points Summary
The Points Jock - Bill of Rights +1
ThreadTripping
Traveling Well For Less
Wald Around The World
Will Run For Miles
Doctor of Credit
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 4:18 pm
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Hi, I was busy on the Hyatt Lifetime Diamond thread

Ok, life has thrown a few arrows at me this weekend so I will keep it simple.

My two biggest fans ingy and Delta Points appear to be totally obsessed with my tiny blog. I will not waste my time going back and forth again. If you want to read some legendary interactions you can visit my blog and bring some popcorn

Someone with obviously TOO MUCH TIME in his hands left a comment identifying me AND left a link to my professional site and made a ridiculous comment "let's see how fast this one gets censored". It is the only comment in over a year of blogging that was deleted. To this day I delete one or two obvious spam messages because we can only have so much viagra or nfl jerseys lol.

If you care to much to find out who I am (if you are one of the few who do not know, it doesn't take a rocket scientist or pics and arrows to figure it out) please send me a PM or email.

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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
We should change the title of this thread to:

Which miles and points blogs censor comments for the reason of keeping the reader of the comments in the dark about monetization practices that do not have the readers best interest at heart.

It's a little lengthy and loses some of the Zip I agree, but otherwise what we have is more than two categories - everyone censors spam, some people censor personal information, some people censor profanity, some people censor comments that challenge the ethics of the post.

Are all these things equal?
Agree ^

Originally Posted by gpapadop
Hi, I was busy on the Hyatt Lifetime Diamond thread

Ok, life has thrown a few arrows at me this weekend so I will keep it simple.

My two biggest fans ingy and Delta Points appear to be totally obsessed with my tiny blog. I will not waste my time going back and forth again. If you want to read some legendary interactions you can visit my blog and bring some popcorn

Someone with obviously TOO MUCH TIME in his hands left a comment identifying me AND left a link to my professional site and made a ridiculous comment "let's see how fast this one gets censored". It is the only comment in over a year of blogging that was deleted. To this day I delete one or two obvious spam messages because we can only have so much viagra or nfl jerseys lol.

If you care to much to find out who I am (if you are one of the few who do not know, it doesn't take a rocket scientist or pics and arrows to figure it out) please send me a PM or email.

Jeff: It IS a slippery slope and was done on purpose...

ingy: "George is just another Bozo on the Bus with little room to criticize others."

Thank you Sir. Happy Thanksgiving to you!
Then why not edit the details? the fact that you deleted the comment means you're just doing as the hater expected you to do...
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
Agree ^



Then why not edit the details? the fact that you deleted the comment means you're just doing as the hater expected you to do...
Editing is censoring- especially when the entire comment was personal info followed by a 'let's see how long this lasts' no different outcome would be achieved.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 8:22 pm
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Jeff: You are not listening....It was intentional and designed to get TBB to go down on a slippery slope.

ingy: I just reread your comment #367. Wow dude, you sound really really angry. May I refer you to my therapist? I get no commission (full disclosure).

I explained myself many times about TBB and you can read more here under "TBB Rant":

http://travelbloggerbuzz.com/cappado...per-robo-form/

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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
We should change the title of this thread to:

Which miles and points blogs censor comments for the reason of keeping the reader of the comments in the dark about monetization practices that do not have the readers best interest at heart.

It's a little lengthy and loses some of the Zip I agree, but otherwise what we have is more than two categories - everyone censors spam, some people censor personal information, some people censor profanity, some people censor comments that challenge the ethics of the post.

Are all these things equal?
Well put! Totally agree.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
Editing is censoring- especially when the entire comment was personal info followed by a 'let's see how long this lasts' no different outcome would be achieved.
I guess....
but your categorization is way to complicated:

Which miles and points blogs censor comments for the reason of keeping the reader of the comments in the dark about monetization practices that do not have the readers best interest at heart.
i'd say filtering comments which don't say "amazing post!" or something like that is censoring just the same. and not all bloggers are for profit..
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
I guess....
but your categorization is way to complicated:



i'd say filtering comments which don't say "amazing post!" or something like that is censoring just the same. and not all bloggers are for profit..
I think you're missing the point.

Some bloggers are deleting comments that alert their readers to the fact that there are better deals for them on credit cards.

Some bloggers are deleting spam or personal attacks (deliberately posting personal info etc)

The two groups are very different, though the former is trying to pull the latter into the same simple two category 'censors' or 'does not censor' in order to achieve one of two things:

Dilution of the negativity of being labeled a censor

Or

Dilution of the integrity of another blog by branding them with the same negative brush.

It's really very simple.

Ps show me a blog in this space with more than 4 readers (including their own family) that isn't monetized.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
I think you're missing the point.

Some bloggers are deleting comments that alert their readers to the fact that there are better deals for them on credit cards.

Some bloggers are deleting spam or personal attacks (deliberately posting personal info etc)

The two groups are very different, though the former is trying to pull the latter into the same simple two category 'censors' or 'does not censor' in order to achieve one of two things:

Dilution of the negativity of being labeled a censor

Or

Dilution of the integrity of another blog by branding them with the same negative brush.

It's really very simple.

Ps show me a blog in this space with more than 4 readers (including their own family) that isn't monetized.
That was beautiful, thank you.

And, as of today, I would like to volunteer my blog as one not being monetized. Key words "as of today"
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 12:02 am
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Originally Posted by ingy
Why that seems to be a bit of a double standard to me? Is it OK to tout your blog as one that will never ever, ever ever, censor, and yet censor to allegedly protect your identity? The blog owner makes the issue of never censoring one of his platforms by repeating the claim almost daily. It is part of his schtick. (I never saw the comment. It was censored, plain and simple).

When you allegedly hold yourself out to a higher standard with repeated claims that you will never do something and then do to cover your own ..., I would call that hypocritical.
How dare you suggest some one is hypocritical? The guy who says he has no involvement in his former blog - yet defends its pathetic card pimping at every turn? Almost as pathetic as Delta Points and his utterly contemptuous blog.

TBB is the only blog that calls all the card pimps to the carpet for their sleazy practices - and it gets under their thin skin because they can't delete any comments that aren't gushing over how smart and clever they are.

It's revolting that anyone reads such blogs, let alone uses one of their affiliate links.
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 6:39 am
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I can't stomach reading this entire thread, but I see in the wiki that it says View From the Wing does not censor. I don't think that's entirely correct. In response to one of Gary's frequent credit card pitches, in which he listed his favorite cards, I commented that I thought Frequent Miler did a more comprehensive summary and I linked to it.

http://boardingarea.com/frequentmile...ign-up-offers/

This post was deleted.

Whether a blogger "should" delete posts that might reduce credit card commissions is a debatable question. After all, these blogs are businesses. Like on slickdeals, the moderators take a very hands off approach, but they do remove references to other cashback sites (which would save their readers money, but cost the blog owner commission). But to say View From the Wing does not "censor" is not correct, at least from my experience.

EDIT: Gary privately responded that he did not intentionally delete my post. He believes that his spam filter automatically removed it. Sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. So I guess he still belongs in the masochistic camp of non-deleters.

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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by farwest101
How dare you suggest some one is hypocritical? The guy who says he has no involvement in his former blog - yet defends its pathetic card pimping at every turn? Almost as pathetic as Delta Points and his utterly contemptuous blog.

TBB is the only blog that calls all the card pimps to the carpet for their sleazy practices - and it gets under their thin skin because they can't delete any comments that aren't gushing over how smart and clever they are.

It's revolting that anyone reads such blogs, let alone uses one of their affiliate links.
It was very easy to call it hypocritical. If Georgie boy wasn't so over the top with his condemnation of censoring, I would gladly give him a pass.
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by ingy
It was very easy to call it hypocritical. If Georgie boy wasn't so over the top with his condemnation of censoring, I would gladly give him a pass.
I've got to agree on this one.

And the elephant in the room is George's entire blog is built on mocking the money making going on in the business, yet it's clear he has his eye on the prize. Labor of love and all that b/s but every single post goes on about how hard it is and how someday gonna have to monetize.

Anyway I am not a fan of casting stones from glass houses. Criticism is fine, but not when you do the same thing. On the censoring thing while I think George made a mistake, it is crazy for someone like DeltaPoints to come here all full of themselves when their censorship is so bad and where they PROUDLY screw their readers out of benefits in order to do nothing but line their own pockets with money.
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 8:21 am
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Agree - how much?

Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
Editing is censoring
I just want to get the "rules" straight as I think I can adjust my blog to not censor under TBB rules.

TBB has now publicly admitted that he will CENSOR:

Anything that shows his name
Anything that shows his other blog
Any inserted links in a comment he does not like (calls them spam )
He may EDIT (not remove) comments he feels he has to
More?

How many different kinds of censorship will be allowed before the "Army of Angry's" also feels: OK that step is just too much censorship?
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by Delta Points
How many different kinds of censorship will be allowed before the "Army of Angry's" also feels: OK that step is just too much censorship?
Well in fairness I thought it was already one step too much... but I am not sure if I am part of the Army of Anrgies or not
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Originally Posted by Delta Points
I just want to get the "rules" straight as I think I can adjust my blog to not censor under TBB rules.

TBB has now publicly admitted that he will CENSOR:

Anything that shows his name
Anything that shows his other blog
Any inserted links in a comment he does not like (calls them spam )
He may EDIT (not remove) comments he feels he has to
More?

How many different kinds of censorship will be allowed before the "Army of Angry's" also feels: OK that step is just too much censorship?
There are no rules, you can censor or not censor as much as you like. Personally, I think as bloggers we should censor and think George should censor more, I said as much to him.

One thing I don't understand is why you are avoiding the matter at hand though, that you know there is a difference between censoring in order to protect your own financial gain and censoring to protect readers from spam, or keep your personal information personal.

I actually don't mind if people censor to hide the truth from their readers that they are intentionally deleting comments that would alert them to the inferior offers being sold to them, it is a business and it is yours to run as you see fit.

But I would have more respect for the people who do this if they had the gumption to stand up and say it rather than try to play games like this one, trying to set a trap for TBB and hide their intentions.

Frankly, I ignored the TBB posts about FTG and your site, along with others he doesn't like as irrelevant to me, but seeing the way in which you and Ingy are trying to discredit him and divert attention from this has made me think less of both of you.

I'd recommend moving on and ignoring it, there is no real harm being done to DP or FTG from TBB, but every time that one of you actually bites at it and does something to 'get even' it shows you in a worse light than his blog ever could.

Just my 2 cents.
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