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simons1 Feb 8, 2020 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by Larkin (Post 32046678)
Why the heck don’t they cancel Beijing. Those passengers could be going on to any other country changing planes in Dubai. We have
a flight from South Africa to Dubai to SFO in 10 days. Tried to cancel and even though first class is non refundable and they said no, they
were on,y refunding Beijing and previously canceled China flights. We don’t want to rebook on Emirates we want to fly home, we want to switch to
BA or Lufthansa that are not flying to China. Very frustrating and yes, as one poster stated, very selfish.

The most recent UK case caught it in Singapore. Should Emirates cancel Singapore flights? HK is still accessible from China - should EK cancel flights there too?

Plus of course EK has already implemented additional controls at both Dubai and Shanghai ends.

Seriously, if you want to change then call your insurance or buy a new ticket, as you won't get far with Emirates.

m3red Feb 10, 2020 4:49 am


Originally Posted by davidj1 (Post 32022527)
And hope there are no Chinese in your first cabin? Don't think that would work unless Chinese don't fly first that often.

we had the cabin to ourselves.

You do understand that people not
from China can catch this virus?

m3red Feb 10, 2020 4:51 am


Originally Posted by MT_Switch (Post 32023022)
Maybe bring your own tank of air as well to avoid the air circulation that is pumped from economy to first.

I‘ll ask for the oxygen mask to be released for the flight home, thanks for the idea.

DYKWIA Feb 10, 2020 4:58 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 32054158)
I‘ll ask for the oxygen mask to be released for the flight home, thanks for the idea.

Are you not dead yet? You must have been in close proximity to at least one Chinese person?

m3red Feb 10, 2020 5:01 am


Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 32054177)
Are you not dead yet? You must have been in close proximity to at least one Chinese person?

no still enjoying the booze at the conrad tokyo with all my chinese mates from wuhan

EKcellent Feb 10, 2020 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by BadoRas (Post 32045227)
Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou View Post
The hysteria over this virus really is hilarious.


I have to agree. The denominator part of the death rate calculation is poorly captured with potentially so many infected people not included in the numbers in China in particular.

Even so, with the official figures for only the registered infections, nCOV has a significantly lower mortality rate than SARS and MERS (35% and 25% respectively if my memory serves me correctly).

This is not to say we should not be concerned, but from a mortality perspective, the hype is certainly overblown.

Well, I don't have to agree. Sure, you could take iFlyMoreThanYou's Trumpesque position that, if there's money to be made, then damn well make it .. any way you can! " 'Consequences' - don't even know the meaning of the word!"

I'd rather be a little cautious and proactive ... considering the potential consequences. (Brings to mind the position of Climate Deniers! Sure, make more money now as quick as possible for the few who profit from dinosaur industries, while screwing everyone over time - with unknown, but likely massive costs eventually).

Some people dismiss the nCov due to "a significantly lower mortality rate than SARS and MERS" ... but if you've got a good understanding of disease spread factors, then a lower mortality rate can spell worse outcomes, as the disease has the potential for a much greater distribution (reason: the high mortality strains will more often kill off host populations at a spread-limiting rate compared to less lethal variants).

Hindsight might close the stable gates, but what's the point if the horse has bolted?

nCov may (hopefully) end up a footnote, but some people prefer to take a cautious approach when the potential costs of ignorance/lethargy are so high!

Longton Feb 10, 2020 10:57 pm

I feel sorry for the crew on the Beijing flights.

I guess they don't have a choice in the matter. Fly and do your job, whatever the risks, or get sacked.

ft101 Feb 11, 2020 12:04 am

Trump, climate change and dinosaur industries all in one post about the "flu". Sometimes it's best not to overthink things.

BadoRas Feb 12, 2020 6:46 am


Originally Posted by EKcellent (Post 32057446)
Well, I don't have to agree. Sure, you could take iFlyMoreThanYou's Trumpesque position that, if there's money to be made, then damn well make it .. any way you can! " 'Consequences' - don't even know the meaning of the word!"

I'd rather be a little cautious and proactive ... considering the potential consequences. (Brings to mind the position of Climate Deniers! Sure, make more money now as quick as possible for the few who profit from dinosaur industries, while screwing everyone over time - with unknown, but likely massive costs eventually).

Some people dismiss the nCov due to "a significantly lower mortality rate than SARS and MERS" ... but if you've got a good understanding of disease spread factors, then a lower mortality rate can spell worse outcomes, as the disease has the potential for a much greater distribution (reason: the high mortality strains will more often kill off host populations at a spread-limiting rate compared to less lethal variants).

Hindsight might close the stable gates, but what's the point if the horse has bolted?

nCov may (hopefully) end up a footnote, but some people prefer to take a cautious approach when the potential costs of ignorance/lethargy are so high!


Thank you for your response.

I certainly take this situation very seriously, and I travel frequently to developing countries where there are large Chinese workforces who regularly fly back and forth to China. I'm also in the highest bracket of people who are at risk of death from nCOV. I tick 4 boxes out of 4. For me to ignore the risk would be foolhardy. I 100% approve of strict measures being brought into force to limit its spread.

All I was saying is that the exhibited mortality for nCOV is orders of magnitudes lower than for SARS and MERS. And yes, I agree with you about the capacity for it to kill a huge number of people if it becomes a true pandemic. My statement had nothing to do with DJT's attitude to the world. Nor did it have anything to do with any attempt by entities to make financial gain from the spread of nCOV. And, with a masters in environmental science as one of my qualifications, I'm certainly no climate change denier!

Cool, analytical heads please, they are best in the face of significant threats.

BadoRas Feb 12, 2020 6:53 am


Originally Posted by EKcellent (Post 32057555)
Trump needs people like you. Proof that greed & IQ tend to occur in inverse proportion. Continue on in your bubble. ;)


Let's not get too personal here. I have previously dipped below the bar with comments like this, but I have lifted my game. We should all resist the temptation for ridicule when the ideas of others don't match our own.

This is a forum for the exchange of ideas and information. And mutual respect.

Saltire74 Feb 12, 2020 10:38 am

Mod note:

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Folks,

Can we leave the bickering, posts that are getting too personal and politics out of this thread.

Whether you think nations are going OTT in dealing with this virus or airlines are not doing enough to prevent spread, those are decisions beyond the average Flyertalk member’s control.

This thread is primarily here to give accurate information related to how Emirates are dealing with the situation and to give advice (where we can) to fellow FTers looking for assistance.

If you wish to discuss Coronavirus and politics then take it to OMNI/PR if your posting privileges allow. If you want some in-depth discussion about it then visit the China forum https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chin...-virus-79.html but please keep this thread as factual and concise as possible.

Thanks for your understanding.

Saltire74

warakorn Feb 25, 2020 5:39 am

The UAE (DXB belongs to the UAE) is prohibiting flights to Thailand -> that means all EK flights DXB-BKK should be cancelled now or very soon.

ft101 Feb 25, 2020 6:32 am


Originally Posted by warakorn (Post 32110552)
The UAE (DXB belongs to the UAE) is prohibiting flights to Thailand -> that means all EK flights DXB-BKK should be cancelled now or very soon.

Source?

All I have seen from the UAE is:


. . . . . the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation has issued a travel ban, calling on all UAE citizens to not travel to Iran and Thailand at present and up until further notice.
As most air/cabin crew and passengers are non-UAE citizens I don't see that meaning flights should be cancelled at the moment.

https://www.arabianbusiness.com/heal...onavirus-fears

DYKWIA Feb 25, 2020 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by warakorn (Post 32110552)
The UAE (DXB belongs to the UAE) is prohibiting flights to Thailand -> that means all EK flights DXB-BKK should be cancelled now or very soon.


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 32110710)
Source?

Indeed. There seems to be a lot of uninformed nonsense posted about the Corona Virus across many FT forums.

Longton Feb 25, 2020 3:42 pm

Emirates is still flying to Thailand but has temporarily stopped all flights to Bahrain and Iran.


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