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mas66 Dec 28, 2021 6:42 pm

Anyone have any thoughts about whether this is new or old F ?


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f55e08f00.jpeg
Thought on new or old F This is HKT - DXB on 2Jan

SFO777 Dec 28, 2021 6:59 pm


Originally Posted by mas66 (Post 33850795)
Anyone have any thoughts about whether this is new or old F ? Thought on new or old F This is HKT - DXB on 2Jan

Whoa, that's a new one. There are only 3 seats in each row of New First so the fact that the seat map shows 4 seats in row 2 would suggest old F.
But that's a very strange seat map. What happened to 1F and 1K??

DLATL777 Dec 28, 2021 7:39 pm


Originally Posted by SFO777 (Post 33850829)
Whoa, that's a new one. There are only 3 seats in each row of New First so the fact that the seat map shows 4 seats in row 2 would suggest old F.
But that's a very strange seat map. What happened to 1F and 1K??

Is it possible they are using those seats for pilot crew rest both ways? If they’re transporting the flying crew with them instead of leaving crew on the ground then perhaps the outbound crew would sleep in those seats on the way to Dubai and the inbound take the seats on the way back. I’ve seen is rarely but perhaps that’s what’s going on?

mas66 Dec 28, 2021 8:00 pm


Originally Posted by DLATL777 (Post 33850922)
Is it possible they are using those seats for pilot crew rest both ways? If they’re transporting the flying crew with them instead of leaving crew on the ground then perhaps the outbound crew would sleep in those seats on the way to Dubai and the inbound take the seats on the way back. I’ve seen is rarely but perhaps that’s what’s going on?

Im not sure about EK but other airlines simply block crew rest seats rather than remove from seat map completely. ….

saaveraward Dec 28, 2021 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by mas66 (Post 33850970)
Im not sure about EK but other airlines simply block crew rest seats rather than remove from seat map completely. ….

actually, I've seen UA remove crew rest seats from the seat map completely.

thijsseh Dec 29, 2021 12:25 am


Originally Posted by DLATL777 (Post 33850922)
Is it possible they are using those seats for pilot crew rest both ways? If they’re transporting the flying crew with them instead of leaving crew on the ground then perhaps the outbound crew would sleep in those seats on the way to Dubai and the inbound take the seats on the way back. I’ve seen is rarely but perhaps that’s what’s going on?

That would be my assumption. I have in the past seen 1K ‘missing’ from the seat map on several occasions and when I was seated in 1F there was a pilot in 1K (and a different one when I woke up after a few hours sleep). Have not seen 2 seats ‘removed’ from the seat map that way, but it seems entirely possible.

mas66 Dec 29, 2021 12:30 am


Originally Posted by thijsseh (Post 33851358)
That would be my assumption. I have in the past seen 1K ‘missing’ from the seat map on several occasions and when I was seated in 1F there was a pilot in 1K (and a different one when I woke up after a few hours sleep). Have not seen 2 seats ‘removed’ from the seat map that way, but it seems entirely possible.

Thats probably the answer, I’ve just found out that currently EK crew don’t stop over in HKT so would presumably need rest seats to do the return journey.

YYCCL3 Dec 31, 2021 3:37 am

Interestingly enough, both HND and NRT appear to be serviced by new F in March... wonder what the rationale is given the loads on these flights are very low compared to many other places?

mas66 Dec 31, 2021 4:47 am


Originally Posted by mas66 (Post 33850795)
Anyone have any thoughts about whether this is new or old F ?


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f55e08f00.jpeg
Thought on new or old F This is HKT - DXB on 2Jan

Just as a follow up ….. once OLCI opened 1F and 1K were released …. So I managed to grab 1E and F with Mrs S …… so clearly ‘old’ F ….. but I’m happy with that !

nash_d Jan 10, 2022 9:31 pm

DXB-IAD on 01/29
 
Looking for some help to see if there’s any way to re-request a seat in F that I had on hold in F on 01/29, DXB-IAD. Rookie mistake on my part. Seat was on hold as I was looking for availability to open up BOM-DXB (plus wasn’t sure how testing requirements work with 2 separate tickets). Unfortunately, the segment dropped out of my reservation yesterday. Another agent has added me to the waitlist but no idea if that will clear. Any ideas if there’s any way to request that seat back? Also, could anyone provide any insight into chances of it opening up again based on current demand?

Filler03 Apr 27, 2022 12:03 pm

Does anybody know how to check if the Business seats have been on the 777ER to the ones pictured? Since the seat map is the same (2-3-2) its hard to tell. Specifically looking at EWR to ATH.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fe369b92e0.jpg

SFO777 Apr 27, 2022 12:09 pm


Originally Posted by Filler03 (Post 34201412)
Does anybody know how to check if the Business seats have been on the 777ER to the ones pictured? Since the seat map is the same (2-3-2) its hard to tell. Specifically looking at EWR to ATH.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fe369b92e0.jpg

One way would be to check First Class. 6 seats is New First, 8 seats is Old First.
EWR-ATH is unlikely to get new anything and J will likely be as you see above.

Filler03 Apr 27, 2022 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by SFO777 (Post 34201422)
One way would be to check First Class. 6 seats is New First, 8 seats is Old First.
EWR-ATH is unlikely to get new anything and J will likely be as you see above.

Yep, I know the trick to look at 6 first class vs 8 first class but it was my understanding that some of the 777-300ERs still have the 8 first class configuration but with the updated J hard product I pictured. The old/dated J product doesnt have the suede seats and look more like this:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a1eb6924a4.jpg

stargold Apr 27, 2022 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by Filler03 (Post 34201688)
Yep, I know the trick to look at 6 first class vs 8 first class but it was my understanding that some of the 777-300ERs still have the 8 first class configuration but with the updated J hard product I pictured. The old/dated J product doesnt have the suede seats and look more like this:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a1eb6924a4.jpg

Pretty sure only the 6F config has the new J seats.

There is a slightly updated version of the seat in your photo with a bigger tablet and newer IFE, but essentially the same seat. You have to go either 77L or 6F 77W to get the new seat.

aritrixa Apr 27, 2022 11:55 pm

Are there any 77W airframe without F (42J/386Y) that have J seats upgraded?


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