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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 11:42 pm
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Originally Posted by m3red
Mine was paid first flex. Notwithstanding all the taxes etc the exact fare difference was 3000 aed.

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I just feel a bit ripped off and being in Dubai with zero recourse is frustrating. Next time this happens ex eu I'm going straight for a claim bypassing customer services and I'd advise anyone else to do the same.
fair enough
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Old Nov 7, 2015 | 8:08 am
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Originally Posted by m3red
For those that are interested this was the final response to my downgrade claim.

We are Emirates we will do what we want...

Our Ref No: DXB.......

Dear Mr M3red

Thank you for your email messages of 29 October and 04 November.

I am sorry to learn that you are disappointed with my response. By explaining and clarifying our position we do not wish for you to have negative feelings about the service provided by Emirates.

As outlined in my previous correspondence, in line with our operating policy, booking references with aircraft configuration changes/schedule changes due to operational reasons are automatically placed on a message queue to be actioned by our Contact Centre staff on priority basis. As this is a queue system, our staff do contact passengers to advise them of the schedule changes. I understand that you identified the change of class in your booking prior to our staff contacting you.

A report from our Global Contact Center team indicates that you wished to travel only on 20 October. Regrettably, our staff were unable to obtain an interline booking with Bangkok Airways, as there was no one-way fare provided by them.

Please allow me to also clarify that our booking module has different subordinate booking classes. To explain fully, a First class fare will have different sub-classes and the fare is calculated depending on the availability at the time of booking. Therefore, on 13 October, when you contacted our Global Contact Center, our staff advised you that the subordinate First Class fare that you were booked under was unavailable from Bangkok. However, a higher subordinate First class fare was available where a difference of fare would apply. However, you preferred to travel in Business class on flight EK379 as you were concerned about transferring your baggage on Emirates.

With regard to your wife's booking, her ticket was issued on 03 August 2015 in First Class on flight EK378 and Business Class on flight EK379. Your ticket was issued 14 August in First Class on both flights EK378 and EK379. May I explain that our airfares are determined by commercial and operational policies and our fares are finalised by our Online Pricing team. The fare construction may vary, depending on the fare basis, point of ticket issuance, season, passenger load factors, route structure, etc. Therefore, in line with our procedures, I can confirm that the refund amount of AED 300 has been correctly calculated in this instance.

If you were advised of a difference in fare of AED 1500 to upgrade online, this would have been applicable for that day only. In the event you paid AED 1500 to avail of the upgrade, a refund of AED 1500 would have applied if you were downgraded to Business Class.

We have demonstrated empathy by offering you and your wife 25,000 Skywards miles, for the events described. Whilst I understand your disappointment, may I take this opportunity to inform you that we do not offer Skywards miles as a matter of course.

I hope that we can now draw this matter to a close, and look forward to welcoming you and your wife onboard our flights when you next travel Emirates.

Yours sincerely,

Customer Affairs
Shoddy, shoddy, shoddy! I, too, would be most upset at this outcome. Whilst my own experience with EK has, to date, been excellent, I am about to test QR next week!! Like to spread my business even if it means I never make Plat or top tier!!
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Old Nov 7, 2015 | 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by gillyd22
Shoddy, shoddy, shoddy! I, too, would be most upset at this outcome. Whilst my own experience with EK has, to date, been excellent, I am about to test QR next week!! Like to spread my business even if it means I never make Plat or top tier!!
Basically it means if you book first and get j you won't get any money back unless it's an ex Eu flight...

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Old Nov 7, 2015 | 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by m3red
Basically it means if you book first and get j you won't get any money back unless it's an ex Eu flight...

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Hi M3red - I really sympathise. What has happened to you is totally inexcusable. And the "recovery" is shocking. It's all about the recovery! Or not!
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Old Nov 8, 2015 | 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by m3red
Basically it means if you book first and get j you won't get any money back unless it's an ex Eu flight...

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EK is ridiculous with these downgrades. When they downgraded be from paid F to J on a CMB-DXB sector they claimed they didn't owe me a penny.

300 AED is similarly ridiculous. I have yet to see a fare from EK where the price difference between J and F is 300 AED.
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Old Nov 8, 2015 | 11:01 am
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EK is ridiculous with these downgrades. When they downgraded be from paid F to J on a CMB-DXB sector they claimed they didn't owe me a penny.

300 AED is similarly ridiculous. I have yet to see a fare from EK where the price difference between J and F is 300 AED.
I know - the email is tosh - the fare difference is 1500. Get me an f fare to Phuket that is 300 difference between f and j.

Given how many long haul f flights I've bought this year I'd have thought they would have not been fussed about paying me back what they owe - clearly not bothered about passenger satisfaction or customer service.

I'll have to drink a few more bottles of dp on the way to Cape Town next week.
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Old Nov 8, 2015 | 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by m3red
I know - the email is tosh - the fare difference is 1500. Get me an f fare to Phuket that is 300 difference between f and j.

Given how many long haul f flights I've bought this year I'd have thought they would have not been fussed about paying me back what they owe - clearly not bothered about passenger satisfaction or customer service.

I'll have to drink a few more bottles of dp on the way to Cape Town next week.
I think we all empathise! Just enjoy the fabulous wine in CT and smile when you see the bill!
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Old Nov 8, 2015 | 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by m3red
I know - the email is tosh - the fare difference is 1500. Get me an f fare to Phuket that is 300 difference between f and j.

Given how many long haul f flights I've bought this year I'd have thought they would have not been fussed about paying me back what they owe - clearly not bothered about passenger satisfaction or customer service.
Perhaps next time, just simply cancel the ticket completely and rebook rather than worry about partial credit. That way you will be charged the correct fare

As far as number of flights purchased, that should have no impact on calculation of refund surely
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Old Nov 8, 2015 | 8:51 pm
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Perhaps next time, just simply cancel the ticket completely and rebook rather than worry about partial credit. That way you will be charged the correct fare

As far as number of flights purchased, that should have no impact on calculation of refund surely
If I'd known that I'd would have. I didn't get given that option and I foolishly trusted Emirates would do the right thing.

My mistake that won't be repeated.

Re number f fights I'm just trying to out 1500 into context of spend and actually given they just offered me j and I paid for f they basically ripped me off!
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 10:02 am
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does anybody know if the demand for F is really so small to HKT?! They downgraded me also on the night flight EK396 from DXB (first they swapped EK378..) just ridiculous, will reroute now via BKK.
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by kuroko
does anybody know if the demand for F is really so small to HKT?! They downgraded me also on the night flight EK396 from DXB (first they swapped EK378..) just ridiculous, will reroute now via BKK.
Outside of peak leisure travel season, little demand in F - many visitors like a one/two day stopover in BKK and route via BKK with PG add-on
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by kuroko
does anybody know if the demand for F is really so small to HKT?! They downgraded me also on the night flight EK396 from DXB (first they swapped EK378..) just ridiculous, will reroute now via BKK.
Good luck with that...

I'll never pay for f to Hkt ever again after my experience.
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by m3red
Good luck with that...

I'll never pay for f to Hkt ever again after my experience.
I know your story. They calculated me the 'fare difference' aka highest J to lowest A - around 200$ haha.
I'll reroute via BKK and then PG in Business, not interest in another swap on the HKT flight..
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by kuroko
I know your story. They calculated me the 'fare difference' aka highest J to lowest A - around 200$ haha.
I'll reroute via BKK and then PG in Business, not interest in another swap on the HKT flight..
you could try asking for a refund and just rebooking at whatever business class fare is available rather than allowing EK to calculate a fare difference
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
you could try asking for a refund and just rebooking at whatever business class fare is available rather than allowing EK to calculate a fare difference
true, thanks for that, forgotten about it. lets hope Z is available on the other flights
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