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#46




Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,791
Mine was paid first flex. Notwithstanding all the taxes etc the exact fare difference was 3000 aed.
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I just feel a bit ripped off and being in Dubai with zero recourse is frustrating. Next time this happens ex eu I'm going straight for a claim bypassing customer services and I'd advise anyone else to do the same.
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I just feel a bit ripped off and being in Dubai with zero recourse is frustrating. Next time this happens ex eu I'm going straight for a claim bypassing customer services and I'd advise anyone else to do the same.
#47

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: CPT SA
Programs: EK Plat
Posts: 196
For those that are interested this was the final response to my downgrade claim.
We are Emirates we will do what we want...
Our Ref No: DXB.......
Dear Mr M3red
Thank you for your email messages of 29 October and 04 November.
I am sorry to learn that you are disappointed with my response. By explaining and clarifying our position we do not wish for you to have negative feelings about the service provided by Emirates.
As outlined in my previous correspondence, in line with our operating policy, booking references with aircraft configuration changes/schedule changes due to operational reasons are automatically placed on a message queue to be actioned by our Contact Centre staff on priority basis. As this is a queue system, our staff do contact passengers to advise them of the schedule changes. I understand that you identified the change of class in your booking prior to our staff contacting you.
A report from our Global Contact Center team indicates that you wished to travel only on 20 October. Regrettably, our staff were unable to obtain an interline booking with Bangkok Airways, as there was no one-way fare provided by them.
Please allow me to also clarify that our booking module has different subordinate booking classes. To explain fully, a First class fare will have different sub-classes and the fare is calculated depending on the availability at the time of booking. Therefore, on 13 October, when you contacted our Global Contact Center, our staff advised you that the subordinate First Class fare that you were booked under was unavailable from Bangkok. However, a higher subordinate First class fare was available where a difference of fare would apply. However, you preferred to travel in Business class on flight EK379 as you were concerned about transferring your baggage on Emirates.
With regard to your wife's booking, her ticket was issued on 03 August 2015 in First Class on flight EK378 and Business Class on flight EK379. Your ticket was issued 14 August in First Class on both flights EK378 and EK379. May I explain that our airfares are determined by commercial and operational policies and our fares are finalised by our Online Pricing team. The fare construction may vary, depending on the fare basis, point of ticket issuance, season, passenger load factors, route structure, etc. Therefore, in line with our procedures, I can confirm that the refund amount of AED 300 has been correctly calculated in this instance.
If you were advised of a difference in fare of AED 1500 to upgrade online, this would have been applicable for that day only. In the event you paid AED 1500 to avail of the upgrade, a refund of AED 1500 would have applied if you were downgraded to Business Class.
We have demonstrated empathy by offering you and your wife 25,000 Skywards miles, for the events described. Whilst I understand your disappointment, may I take this opportunity to inform you that we do not offer Skywards miles as a matter of course.
I hope that we can now draw this matter to a close, and look forward to welcoming you and your wife onboard our flights when you next travel Emirates.
Yours sincerely,
Customer Affairs
We are Emirates we will do what we want...
Our Ref No: DXB.......
Dear Mr M3red
Thank you for your email messages of 29 October and 04 November.
I am sorry to learn that you are disappointed with my response. By explaining and clarifying our position we do not wish for you to have negative feelings about the service provided by Emirates.
As outlined in my previous correspondence, in line with our operating policy, booking references with aircraft configuration changes/schedule changes due to operational reasons are automatically placed on a message queue to be actioned by our Contact Centre staff on priority basis. As this is a queue system, our staff do contact passengers to advise them of the schedule changes. I understand that you identified the change of class in your booking prior to our staff contacting you.
A report from our Global Contact Center team indicates that you wished to travel only on 20 October. Regrettably, our staff were unable to obtain an interline booking with Bangkok Airways, as there was no one-way fare provided by them.
Please allow me to also clarify that our booking module has different subordinate booking classes. To explain fully, a First class fare will have different sub-classes and the fare is calculated depending on the availability at the time of booking. Therefore, on 13 October, when you contacted our Global Contact Center, our staff advised you that the subordinate First Class fare that you were booked under was unavailable from Bangkok. However, a higher subordinate First class fare was available where a difference of fare would apply. However, you preferred to travel in Business class on flight EK379 as you were concerned about transferring your baggage on Emirates.
With regard to your wife's booking, her ticket was issued on 03 August 2015 in First Class on flight EK378 and Business Class on flight EK379. Your ticket was issued 14 August in First Class on both flights EK378 and EK379. May I explain that our airfares are determined by commercial and operational policies and our fares are finalised by our Online Pricing team. The fare construction may vary, depending on the fare basis, point of ticket issuance, season, passenger load factors, route structure, etc. Therefore, in line with our procedures, I can confirm that the refund amount of AED 300 has been correctly calculated in this instance.
If you were advised of a difference in fare of AED 1500 to upgrade online, this would have been applicable for that day only. In the event you paid AED 1500 to avail of the upgrade, a refund of AED 1500 would have applied if you were downgraded to Business Class.
We have demonstrated empathy by offering you and your wife 25,000 Skywards miles, for the events described. Whilst I understand your disappointment, may I take this opportunity to inform you that we do not offer Skywards miles as a matter of course.
I hope that we can now draw this matter to a close, and look forward to welcoming you and your wife onboard our flights when you next travel Emirates.
Yours sincerely,
Customer Affairs
#48
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MAN DXB ✈️
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 6,930
Shambles
#49

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: CPT SA
Programs: EK Plat
Posts: 196
#50




Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: West Coast, USA
Programs: Skywards Platinum
Posts: 3,747
300 AED is similarly ridiculous. I have yet to see a fare from EK where the price difference between J and F is 300 AED.
#51
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MAN DXB ✈️
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 6,930
Given how many long haul f flights I've bought this year I'd have thought they would have not been fussed about paying me back what they owe - clearly not bothered about passenger satisfaction or customer service.
I'll have to drink a few more bottles of dp on the way to Cape Town next week.
#52

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: CPT SA
Programs: EK Plat
Posts: 196
I know - the email is tosh - the fare difference is 1500. Get me an f fare to Phuket that is 300 difference between f and j.
Given how many long haul f flights I've bought this year I'd have thought they would have not been fussed about paying me back what they owe - clearly not bothered about passenger satisfaction or customer service.
I'll have to drink a few more bottles of dp on the way to Cape Town next week.
Given how many long haul f flights I've bought this year I'd have thought they would have not been fussed about paying me back what they owe - clearly not bothered about passenger satisfaction or customer service.
I'll have to drink a few more bottles of dp on the way to Cape Town next week.
#53
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 46,129
I know - the email is tosh - the fare difference is 1500. Get me an f fare to Phuket that is 300 difference between f and j.
Given how many long haul f flights I've bought this year I'd have thought they would have not been fussed about paying me back what they owe - clearly not bothered about passenger satisfaction or customer service.
Given how many long haul f flights I've bought this year I'd have thought they would have not been fussed about paying me back what they owe - clearly not bothered about passenger satisfaction or customer service.
As far as number of flights purchased, that should have no impact on calculation of refund surely
#54
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MAN DXB ✈️
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 6,930
My mistake that won't be repeated.
Re number f fights I'm just trying to out 1500 into context of spend and actually given they just offered me j and I paid for f they basically ripped me off!
#56




Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 5,482
Outside of peak leisure travel season, little demand in F - many visitors like a one/two day stopover in BKK and route via BKK with PG add-on
#57
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MAN DXB ✈️
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 6,930
I'll never pay for f to Hkt ever again after my experience.
#58
Join Date: Jul 2014
Programs: Skywards
Posts: 937
I'll reroute via BKK and then PG in Business, not interest in another swap on the HKT flight..
#59
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 46,129
you could try asking for a refund and just rebooking at whatever business class fare is available rather than allowing EK to calculate a fare difference
#60
Join Date: Jul 2014
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