Saver VS Flex Fare Changes...
Apr 26, 2011 | 10:04 pm
#106
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I think it's time you got an expertflyer subscription.
Different fare buckets mean different things depending on POS and route being flown, so there is no mapping of fare buckets to flex saver. On some routes, you could have multiple fares in a bucket, some of which are flex and others that are saver.
Different fare buckets mean different things depending on POS and route being flown, so there is no mapping of fare buckets to flex saver. On some routes, you could have multiple fares in a bucket, some of which are flex and others that are saver.
I've already switched my travel to AA and BA, and I'm glad I did. eVIP upgrades to F on BA, and F lounge access at LHR are just the icing at this point.
Apr 26, 2011 | 10:16 pm
#107
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Indeed. And this is what makes things even more confusing. On BA and AA, I know exactly what fare codes earn in terms of points and miles. For the most part, it's not all that difficult to specify when I want to book a higher fare for miles. I have found that even though EK defines Flex fares as "year round" fares, there are times when I have seen fares with no date restrictions (on EF) price as Saver on the website. Couple this with the fact that there is no way to force a Flex fare online, and you end up with the whole situation being an unworkable cluster.
I've already switched my travel to AA and BA, and I'm glad I did. eVIP upgrades to F on BA, and F lounge access at LHR are just the icing at this point.
I've already switched my travel to AA and BA, and I'm glad I did. eVIP upgrades to F on BA, and F lounge access at LHR are just the icing at this point.
Apr 27, 2011 | 12:57 am
#108
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While I would rather fly EK without an FF program than step foot on an AA flight, I'd be interested to know how status works out for you. Someone posted recently that it would take 35 full fare Y RTs on BA between LHR and HKG to reach Gold, while only 4.5 on EK. Though truth be told BA Silver has benefits equivalent to EK Gold.
Apr 27, 2011 | 1:25 am
#109
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The point is in most big airlines, we are aware of whats the miles / points we are going to earn by buying tickets at given prices.. many airline websites ( incl LH, OS ) allow u to buy higher class fares etc.. With EK , all this is a mystery unless someone is willing to call their CS and ask about high classes, and still then with the current chaos with saver / flex and difference in miles shown online and that written in tickets its really confusing and leaves a bad taste in the mouth specially considering these things (mainly IT related) should ideally be easily resolved..
As far as I'm concerned if at any stage of the booking I see flex, those are the miles I will make sure I get, using whatever tactics necessary. With EK you sort of know what your experience onboard is going to be like - with AA you don't and there's no way I'd take that risk on a transatlantic flight.
Apr 27, 2011 | 1:32 am
#110
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[QUOTE=ung1;16287300]Again - not if you get an EF account
As far as I'm concerned if at any stage of the booking I see flex, those are the miles I will make sure I get, using whatever tactics necessary. With EK you sort of know what your experience onboard is going to be like - with AA you don't and there's no way I'd take that risk on a transatlantic flight.[/QUOTE]
+1
While I have never flown AA , seeing reviews on this site does not make me sad that I missed flying them
As far as I'm concerned if at any stage of the booking I see flex, those are the miles I will make sure I get, using whatever tactics necessary. With EK you sort of know what your experience onboard is going to be like - with AA you don't and there's no way I'd take that risk on a transatlantic flight.[/QUOTE]
+1
While I have never flown AA , seeing reviews on this site does not make me sad that I missed flying them
Apr 27, 2011 | 1:59 am
#111
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Apr 27, 2011 | 2:02 am
#112
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Only because EK's (current) product is years ahead of whatever AA can offer. At double the cost, no I wouldn't fly EK. And if the comparison was with Etihad I'd probably fly them. I meant that for a one off flight - I don't think I'd want to fly 50k a year on a program that gave me no mileage at all, aka SQ.
Apr 27, 2011 | 2:09 am
#113
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Only because EK's (current) product is years ahead of whatever AA can offer. At double the cost, no I wouldn't fly EK. And if the comparison was with Etihad I'd probably fly them. I meant that for a one off flight - [B]I don't think I'd want to fly 50k a year on a program that gave me no mileage at all, aka SQ[/B].
Apr 27, 2011 | 6:18 am
#114
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Apr 27, 2011 | 7:34 am
#115
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Apr 27, 2011 | 7:52 am
#116
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Actually I have several other reasons for not liking SQ, one of the most annoying being that they only turn on IFE an hour into the flight and switch it off a good 30 minutes before landing. And there's a laundry list of other reasons that I'm sure you've read about all over the place so I won't go OT here anymore.
..IMHO, nowadays there is no airline nor ffp which is worth paying more than 10-15% extra simply because all are doing "enhancements" to their benefit..
Apr 27, 2011 | 8:28 am
#117
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Come on, what sort of frequent flyer/ FT'er are you if you use airline provided try-to-hear phones! I take pleasure in watching people having to give up on a movie half way while I continue to watch IFE till the cleaners come and kick me off the aircraft.
Apr 28, 2011 | 12:55 am
#119
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Miles reflecting online discrepancy resolved ??
Hi Folks,
Till yday, I was able to see flex miles online while ticket denoted saver..
Today for the sector I was checking ( CCU - DXB - DME) it shows the saver miles online ..So it seems the discrepancy is rectified for these sectors atleast though I wish it did not happen this way ( but thats another topic)
What about other sectors many of you fly ??
Edit -- I did some checking.. lowest fare on the above sector is approx Eur 815 which is saver.. Toggling with some flight options, the lowest for one leg in flex and one in saver I could get was about Eur 950-1000.. but even the fare priced at Eur 1300 shows one leg as flex and one as saver.. hmmm.. so now the full flex ticket would be really expensive ..
Till yday, I was able to see flex miles online while ticket denoted saver..
Today for the sector I was checking ( CCU - DXB - DME) it shows the saver miles online ..So it seems the discrepancy is rectified for these sectors atleast though I wish it did not happen this way ( but thats another topic)
What about other sectors many of you fly ??
Edit -- I did some checking.. lowest fare on the above sector is approx Eur 815 which is saver.. Toggling with some flight options, the lowest for one leg in flex and one in saver I could get was about Eur 950-1000.. but even the fare priced at Eur 1300 shows one leg as flex and one as saver.. hmmm.. so now the full flex ticket would be really expensive ..
Last edited by abhilife2001; Apr 28, 2011 at 1:07 am Reason: Added an example
Apr 28, 2011 | 1:25 am
#120
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Hi Folks,
Till yday, I was able to see flex miles online while ticket denoted saver..
Today for the sector I was checking ( CCU - DXB - DME) it shows the saver miles online ..So it seems the discrepancy is rectified for these sectors atleast though I wish it did not happen this way ( but thats another topic)
What about other sectors many of you fly ??
Edit -- I did some checking.. lowest fare on the above sector is approx Eur 815 which is saver.. Toggling with some flight options, the lowest for one leg in flex and one in saver I could get was about Eur 950-1000.. but even the fare priced at Eur 1300 shows one leg as flex and one as saver.. hmmm.. so now the full flex ticket would be really expensive ..
Till yday, I was able to see flex miles online while ticket denoted saver..
Today for the sector I was checking ( CCU - DXB - DME) it shows the saver miles online ..So it seems the discrepancy is rectified for these sectors atleast though I wish it did not happen this way ( but thats another topic)
What about other sectors many of you fly ??
Edit -- I did some checking.. lowest fare on the above sector is approx Eur 815 which is saver.. Toggling with some flight options, the lowest for one leg in flex and one in saver I could get was about Eur 950-1000.. but even the fare priced at Eur 1300 shows one leg as flex and one as saver.. hmmm.. so now the full flex ticket would be really expensive ..