Saver VS Flex Fare Changes...
#61




Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 559
System-wide fare increase?
Looks like EK has silently jacked up prices (atleast in Y) by 30 to 36% for all sectors. Most of the fares that I could see (from EK-India site) are Flex fares, which used to be Saver fares about a week ago.
This could be seasonal.., but considering that their immediate competitors (QR/EY) are still cheap, their move is unilateral and bold.
I was raving about EK being cheap and affordable in threads of other forums just few days ago... my mistake!
This could be seasonal.., but considering that their immediate competitors (QR/EY) are still cheap, their move is unilateral and bold.
I was raving about EK being cheap and affordable in threads of other forums just few days ago... my mistake!
#63




Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: USA
Programs: SQ PPS SOLITAIRE, DL SILVER ,HHONOR DIAMOND, BONVOY GOLD, IHG PLAT
Posts: 2,045
Looks like EK has silently jacked up prices (atleast in Y) by 30 to 36% for all sectors. Most of the fares that I could see (from EK-India site) are Flex fares, which used to be Saver fares about a week ago.
This could be seasonal.., but considering that their immediate competitors (QR/EY) are still cheap, their move is unilateral and bold.
I was raving about EK being cheap and affordable in threads of other forums just few days ago... my mistake!
This could be seasonal.., but considering that their immediate competitors (QR/EY) are still cheap, their move is unilateral and bold.
I was raving about EK being cheap and affordable in threads of other forums just few days ago... my mistake!
#64
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14
The REAL PROBLEM is that every ticket I can book today has the same exact prices as 3 weeks ago, but now you earn HALF the miles and HALF the tier miles all while paying the same exact price!
This is completely and utterly unacceptable! They have literally just flipped a switch and changed the vast majority of flights from flex to saver, while keeping the prices EXACTLY the same and screwing up 10s if not 100s of thousands of fliers!!
Ramifications?
Twice as hard to reach Gold or Silver (lounges will start emptying out)
Twice as hard to earn miles (fewer upgrades or flights using miles - EK gets to milk your cash for those now)
More expensive to upgrade flights (you need significantly more miles to upgrade a saver booking)
More restrictive tickets (charged for any changes, under Saver conditions)
I'm starting to see the point of the European carriers. No airline can get too big.
Emirates has gotten HUGE and is now REALLY going to cash in on its customer base. Add to that the change to Gold (no longer allowing you to guest in even one passenger unless you fly Business) and all in all its a clear sign from EK that they no longer need nor give a damn about their customers.
I for one will write in to complain, and if you care about your cash and your hard earned miles (which will now be less useful given that the vast majority of sensible bookings will be saver) you should write in too.
Imagine if Starwood now gave you "half a night" or "half a stay" towards Gold or Platinum for the same rates you usually pay????
If nothing is remedied I will not fly EK unless absolutely necessary.
Over and out.
J
This is completely and utterly unacceptable! They have literally just flipped a switch and changed the vast majority of flights from flex to saver, while keeping the prices EXACTLY the same and screwing up 10s if not 100s of thousands of fliers!!
Ramifications?
Twice as hard to reach Gold or Silver (lounges will start emptying out)
Twice as hard to earn miles (fewer upgrades or flights using miles - EK gets to milk your cash for those now)
More expensive to upgrade flights (you need significantly more miles to upgrade a saver booking)
More restrictive tickets (charged for any changes, under Saver conditions)
I'm starting to see the point of the European carriers. No airline can get too big.
Emirates has gotten HUGE and is now REALLY going to cash in on its customer base. Add to that the change to Gold (no longer allowing you to guest in even one passenger unless you fly Business) and all in all its a clear sign from EK that they no longer need nor give a damn about their customers.
I for one will write in to complain, and if you care about your cash and your hard earned miles (which will now be less useful given that the vast majority of sensible bookings will be saver) you should write in too.
Imagine if Starwood now gave you "half a night" or "half a stay" towards Gold or Platinum for the same rates you usually pay????
If nothing is remedied I will not fly EK unless absolutely necessary.
Over and out.
J
Last edited by jayleb; Apr 11, 2011 at 7:52 am
#66




Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: OSL
Programs: QR Plat | SK Diamond | A3 Gold
Posts: 4,612
I don't know if an airline can cash in on their customer base because
1. Most travelers just pick the cheapest airline for every trip they make, irrespective of who they made the previous trip on.
2. A significant majority won't realize the change/ don't care as long as they are getting the cheapest fare.
On a side note, moderator please merge this with existing threads on the same topic.
1. Most travelers just pick the cheapest airline for every trip they make, irrespective of who they made the previous trip on.
2. A significant majority won't realize the change/ don't care as long as they are getting the cheapest fare.
On a side note, moderator please merge this with existing threads on the same topic.
#69
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 10,050
I think it'll be a while before we get the true picture of how it's all going to settle out.
#71


Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PDX
Programs: Don't think it matters...
Posts: 5,255
Am asking since as mentioned here and in other threads, there seems to be many discrepancies in the T&C's and miles shown for the same fares..
#72
Moderator: Emirates Skywards and Qatar Airways Privilege Club




Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: 12R/30L
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Posts: 2,850
I was checking out some fares on EK site.. The miles which show during flight selection can be considered final or will the saver and flex changes post ticket booking apply ?
Am asking since as mentioned here and in other threads, there seems to be many discrepancies in the T&C's and miles shown for the same fares..
Am asking since as mentioned here and in other threads, there seems to be many discrepancies in the T&C's and miles shown for the same fares..
Having said that, I booked a ticket that displayed flex and had saver in the fare conditions and in my Skywards profile - tier status summary displays my future earnings as flex and I'm confident of getting it. They obviously have a system wide glitch that will affect many of their customers and I can't imagine them pissing off everyone with saver credits.
#73




Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: KSA
Programs: Marriott AMB, Skywards Gold
Posts: 3,941
I was checking out some fares on EK site.. The miles which show during flight selection can be considered final or will the saver and flex changes post ticket booking apply ?
Am asking since as mentioned here and in other threads, there seems to be many discrepancies in the T&C's and miles shown for the same fares..
Am asking since as mentioned here and in other threads, there seems to be many discrepancies in the T&C's and miles shown for the same fares..
I have put my travelling with EK on hold for now and will be travelling with BA.
Can't trust EK now.
#74


Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PDX
Programs: Don't think it matters...
Posts: 5,255
will keep a print screen of the current booking page just in case.. thanks for the replies..
#75




Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: USA
Programs: SQ PPS SOLITAIRE, DL SILVER ,HHONOR DIAMOND, BONVOY GOLD, IHG PLAT
Posts: 2,045
Skywards was always an inferior mileage program compared to LH, but now it is just plain ridiculous. It will now take something like 14 round trips CCU/SFO to get one Std Award in business.
Looks like it is back to LH now. Good bye EK.

