OT: When is Israel likely to open its borders?
Nov 7, 2021, 7:39 pm
#361
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Location: Montréal
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really dumb question but since your flying yyz
Where did end up testing for the prior flight pcr test for. Monday flight? Im finding it challenging given the saturday.. thats it hard to get the test done within the 72 hour window prior to flight
i was thinking pearson ( with swift) as aeroplan has a deal but not sure.
Where did end up testing for the prior flight pcr test for. Monday flight? Im finding it challenging given the saturday.. thats it hard to get the test done within the 72 hour window prior to flight
i was thinking pearson ( with swift) as aeroplan has a deal but not sure.
I did the test on Friday afternoon at 12pm.
Checked my email Motz"sh, the results arrived at 11am (so basically as I was leaving shul).
Nov 7, 2021, 9:30 pm
#362
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Nov 8, 2021, 8:03 am
#363
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printed all confirmations, proofs, etc.
They asked to see everything upon arrival, as well as check-in.
Actual airport process was extremely fast in NatBag,
Landed at 10:25am
Waiting for the train by 11:00am.
Nov 8, 2021, 8:45 am
#364
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Did you pre-schedule the Ben Gurion PCR test? I assume it must have been really fast.
Nov 8, 2021, 10:42 am
#365
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Even before Corona I don't remember going through TLV that quickly. Taxiing: 10 minutes. Walking from the plane to baggage claim (15 minutes). Getting checked luggage: 20 minutes. Going through Customs, getting out of the airport, and waiting for the train: 15 minutes. Total 1 hour (on a good day, when my luggage was in the middle of those delivered).
Nov 8, 2021, 11:02 am
#366
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 191
Can someone confirm if what is stated on https://corona.health.gov.il/en/dire...el/?tab=by-air
applies to Israeli citizen/residents only or to all travellers? I assume it's the latter as it states "This guidance applies to all international travelers, regardless of age".
So even if i return as a visitor to the US, i need to obtain a PCR test?
The exit statement is listed as for israeli citizens, but then is required indiscriminately - which one is it?
Would like to make sure i fully understnad what needs to be done in order to board a return flight.
applies to Israeli citizen/residents only or to all travellers? I assume it's the latter as it states "This guidance applies to all international travelers, regardless of age".
So even if i return as a visitor to the US, i need to obtain a PCR test?
The exit statement is listed as for israeli citizens, but then is required indiscriminately - which one is it?
Would like to make sure i fully understnad what needs to be done in order to board a return flight.
Nov 8, 2021, 2:30 pm
#367
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Even before Corona I don't remember going through TLV that quickly. Taxiing: 10 minutes. Walking from the plane to baggage claim (15 minutes). Getting checked luggage: 20 minutes. Going through Customs, getting out of the airport, and waiting for the train: 15 minutes. Total 1 hour (on a good day, when my luggage was in the middle of those delivered).
This was so quick, and had to wait 10 minutes for the test to boot!
Nov 8, 2021, 3:44 pm
#368
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
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Can someone confirm if what is stated on https://corona.health.gov.il/en/dire...el/?tab=by-air
applies to Israeli citizen/residents only or to all travellers? I assume it's the latter as it states "This guidance applies to all international travelers, regardless of age".
So even if i return as a visitor to the US, i need to obtain a PCR test?
The exit statement is listed as for israeli citizens, but then is required indiscriminately - which one is it?
Would like to make sure i fully understnad what needs to be done in order to board a return flight.
applies to Israeli citizen/residents only or to all travellers? I assume it's the latter as it states "This guidance applies to all international travelers, regardless of age".
So even if i return as a visitor to the US, i need to obtain a PCR test?
The exit statement is listed as for israeli citizens, but then is required indiscriminately - which one is it?
Would like to make sure i fully understnad what needs to be done in order to board a return flight.
Nov 9, 2021, 11:10 am
#369
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 1,657
Ouch, 2 PCR tests. That hurts.
My mom is flying to meet us in Europe (I am avoiding Israel until the entry rules become more sane). Based on the prior rules she should have been able to simply board the return flight with her Israeli vaccination documentation. Now, she needs to find a PCR test in a European country on a short notice and at a substantial cost. And then be PCR tested at the airport on arrival (at least it's more reasonably priced).
Sorry, but I think this is a ridiculous requirement. Completely unnecessary.
My mom is flying to meet us in Europe (I am avoiding Israel until the entry rules become more sane). Based on the prior rules she should have been able to simply board the return flight with her Israeli vaccination documentation. Now, she needs to find a PCR test in a European country on a short notice and at a substantial cost. And then be PCR tested at the airport on arrival (at least it's more reasonably priced).
Sorry, but I think this is a ridiculous requirement. Completely unnecessary.
Nov 11, 2021, 2:41 pm
#370
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 191
Can someone confirm if what is stated on https://corona.health.gov.il/en/dire...el/?tab=by-air
applies to Israeli citizen/residents only or to all travellers? I assume it's the latter as it states "This guidance applies to all international travelers, regardless of age".
So even if i return as a visitor to the US, i need to obtain a PCR test?
The exit statement is listed as for israeli citizens, but then is required indiscriminately - which one is it?
Would like to make sure i fully understnad what needs to be done in order to board a return flight.
applies to Israeli citizen/residents only or to all travellers? I assume it's the latter as it states "This guidance applies to all international travelers, regardless of age".
So even if i return as a visitor to the US, i need to obtain a PCR test?
The exit statement is listed as for israeli citizens, but then is required indiscriminately - which one is it?
Would like to make sure i fully understnad what needs to be done in order to board a return flight.
Quote:
Who must fill out this form?
All Israeli citizens and residents 16 years of age and older are required to fill out the form.Foreign nationals are not required to fill out this form.
Nov 12, 2021, 8:35 am
#371
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: CPT,AMS
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Anyone has experience with this "quarantine until PCR results" in a hotel?will be flying to TLV for work in about a week and was wondering how does it work?
I'm assuming I can still take a taxi to my hotel and will have to stay in the room until the results come in? Landing early morning so hopefully won't take too long
(I booked the flight for one day earlier than I need to be in the office just in case it takes the full 24 hours)
I'm assuming I can still take a taxi to my hotel and will have to stay in the room until the results come in? Landing early morning so hopefully won't take too long
(I booked the flight for one day earlier than I need to be in the office just in case it takes the full 24 hours)
Nov 12, 2021, 9:16 am
#372
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Teaneck, NJ
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As I understand it, after the gov't arrival test, you can pay about NIS 120 for an additional test at Check2Fly in Terminal One with 4 hour results. Is there anyone who has actually done this able to confirm? Probably not going until late March at this point so will no doubt change by then.
Nov 12, 2021, 9:43 am
#373
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The Israeli Ministry of Tourism is not going to like this post but here goes:
I strongly urge everyone NOT to make any reservations to fly to Israel more than two weeks out (and preferably less) unless their flights and/or hotel reservations are completely refundable. There is no way to guarantee that a particular country (including the US) will not be considered "red" at that time. If it is, anyone -- including Israeli citizens who are fully vaccinated -- will be required to isolate for at least 14 days. For an Israeli whose home is suitable for isolation, it is only a PITA. For everyone else, it can mean an expensive and uncomfortable stay in a "Corona hotel'.
I cannot find which countries are, today, considered to be red but that is immaterial. With possible winter surges in Corona, any country can be deemed to be red on very short notice.
I strongly urge everyone NOT to make any reservations to fly to Israel more than two weeks out (and preferably less) unless their flights and/or hotel reservations are completely refundable. There is no way to guarantee that a particular country (including the US) will not be considered "red" at that time. If it is, anyone -- including Israeli citizens who are fully vaccinated -- will be required to isolate for at least 14 days. For an Israeli whose home is suitable for isolation, it is only a PITA. For everyone else, it can mean an expensive and uncomfortable stay in a "Corona hotel'.
I cannot find which countries are, today, considered to be red but that is immaterial. With possible winter surges in Corona, any country can be deemed to be red on very short notice.
Nov 12, 2021, 12:13 pm
#374
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Posts: 4,141
The Israeli Ministry of Tourism is not going to like this post but here goes:
I strongly urge everyone NOT to make any reservations to fly to Israel more than two weeks out (and preferably less) unless their flights and/or hotel reservations are completely refundable. There is no way to guarantee that a particular country (including the US) will not be considered "red" at that time. If it is, anyone -- including Israeli citizens who are fully vaccinated -- will be required to isolate for at least 14 days. For an Israeli whose home is suitable for isolation, it is only a PITA. For everyone else, it can mean an expensive and uncomfortable stay in a "Corona hotel'.
I cannot find which countries are, today, considered to be red but that is immaterial. With possible winter surges in Corona, any country can be deemed to be red on very short notice.
I strongly urge everyone NOT to make any reservations to fly to Israel more than two weeks out (and preferably less) unless their flights and/or hotel reservations are completely refundable. There is no way to guarantee that a particular country (including the US) will not be considered "red" at that time. If it is, anyone -- including Israeli citizens who are fully vaccinated -- will be required to isolate for at least 14 days. For an Israeli whose home is suitable for isolation, it is only a PITA. For everyone else, it can mean an expensive and uncomfortable stay in a "Corona hotel'.
I cannot find which countries are, today, considered to be red but that is immaterial. With possible winter surges in Corona, any country can be deemed to be red on very short notice.
https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/report...he-SIMPLE.xlsx
Nov 12, 2021, 6:49 pm
#375
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Location: NYC
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There could be another outbreak; borders could be closed again - hell, *you* might end up coming down with covid a week before travel and thus not be allowed to board the plane. There's way too much uncertainty these days to book a non-refundable reservation anywhere, in my opinion.
However, in my experience it seems that most if not all travel providers recognize that, and hotel cancellation policies are pretty flexible. Meanwhile, it seems that airlines aren't charging change fees on most flights.