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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by toomanybooks
I just took the Buffalo Trace tour a couple weeks ago. The guide told us that Pappy comes from barrels treated, aged, stored exactly like one of their othčr bourbons. Pappy is just selected from among them by certain tasters. So you can get pretty much the same experience for a lot less.
We had the master blender of Buffalo Trace in London a couple of weeks ago and I had a steak dinner and bourbon/ rye tasting with him. The company really does some pretty amazing drinks - from the Sazerac range through the surprisingly tasty Buffalo Trace through to some pretty obscure limited production drinks like Eagle Rare 17, Larue Weller and George T Staff.
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 11:09 pm
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Originally Posted by EuropeanPete
We had the master blender of Buffalo Trace in London a couple of weeks ago and I had a steak dinner and bourbon/ rye tasting with him. The company really does some pretty amazing drinks - from the Sazerac range through the surprisingly tasty Buffalo Trace through to some pretty obscure limited production drinks like Eagle Rare 17, Larue Weller and George T Staff.
What a great experience! At least in the usa, eagle rare 17 george t stagg and William larue weller are no longer obscure. Just 5 years ago the eagle rare 17 used to sit on the shelves and not get bought. Not this year. My liquor stores allotment never even reached the shelves. Their list for those bottles has greatly exceeded their allocation.

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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 1:53 pm
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yup - same with pappy. I was lucky to find a bottle of Stagg in Timonium.

By find I mean getting added to the waiting list the day before they received their shipment. No bottles were put on the shelves.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 11:08 pm
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Originally Posted by thelark
yup - same with pappy. I was lucky to find a bottle of Stagg in Timonium.

By find I mean getting added to the waiting list the day before they received their shipment. No bottles were put on the shelves.
Fairgrounds? They usually have excellent barrel picks. I didn't realize you were local.

Buffalo trace antiques and pappy almost never hit the shelves anymore it seems..,,

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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 8:46 am
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Yeah, at Fairgrounds. I don't think any stores in the area are putting BTAC or Pappy on their shelves. I had Amex concierge call around and put me on a bunch of waiting lists, but no luck yet (Pappy is rolling out in MD). Keeping a close eye on PA after they released BTAC via a twitter link.
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Is this shortage still from the crop failure a while back, or are good ryes just so much in fashion? In Europe there's not much of a consumer demand for the higher end stuff, and there's literally a handful of stores which occasionally bring a bottle in but otherwise you're most likely to see it at an upmarket bar where they've been given a bottle or have brought it back from the US themselves.
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Originally Posted by thelark
Yeah, at Fairgrounds. I don't think any stores in the area are putting BTAC or Pappy on their shelves. I had Amex concierge call around and put me on a bunch of waiting lists, but no luck yet (Pappy is rolling out in MD). Keeping a close eye on PA after they released BTAC via a twitter link.
The fairgrounds guys are good guys. I buy about 25% of my bourbon there... Pappy has rolled out here in MD. It's come and gone. I've been out of town so I for the most part missed it. Thankfully I've been buying booze from the same store since 1997 so they've saved me a 23 yo old.



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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by EuropeanPete
Is this shortage still from the crop failure a while back, or are good ryes just so much in fashion? In Europe there's not much of a consumer demand for the higher end stuff, and there's literally a handful of stores which occasionally bring a bottle in but otherwise you're most likely to see it at an upmarket bar where they've been given a bottle or have brought it back from the US themselves.
In the USA demand has skyrocketed and the supply that's been put in barrels way outstrips that demand. I mean the bourbon boom probably started here about 2010-2021... So back around the turn of the century their forecast wasn't so rosy. The way aged stuff is pretty much so rare. 23 years ago they didn't anticipate that Pappy would be so huge.

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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 7:56 am
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My ability for picking winners in food and drinks seems to extend to whisky too. Having just talked about the tasting above, Sazerac 18 and Larue Weller have been awarded #2 and #3 whiskey in the world in the whisky bible:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...the-world.html

#1 went to the Sherry Cask version of the Yamazaki. I've not tried it, but the "house" whisky sitting on my shelf is the Yamazaki 12 which is lovely (18 and 30 are even better, but out of my budget for "drinking" spirits in the bar).
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 10:48 am
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Found one of my new favorites this week, as one of our local finer restaurants just released their own Kansas City style bourbon. It's blended with a little bit of Sherry and balances the sweetness nicely. Yum.

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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 10:56 am
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While in Lexington recently I tried Pappy for the first time. I was skeptical that it could live up to the hype but it was hands down the best bourbon I've ever tasted.
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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 5:30 am
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I was back in London this weekend and it indeed has become the mecca of Bourbon. Check out these bar photos from the Rosewood hotel....



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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 11:18 am
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How is it that this thread doesn't have a wiki? Of all the threads on FT, this deserves a wiki more than any other. Pictures, spreadsheets of results, pros and cons...

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Old Nov 23, 2014 | 6:38 pm
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How is it that this thread doesn't have a wiki? Of all the threads on FT, this deserves a wiki more than any other. Pictures, spreadsheets of results, pros and cons...

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Sounds like you just volunteered to create one. Thanks!
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by stimpy
I was back in London this weekend and it indeed has become the mecca of Bourbon. Check out these bar photos from the Rosewood hotel....
There's a pro for staying at the Rosewood.. what are they charging for a pour of PVW23? The bottle of Blanton's straight from the barrel is worth trying; isn't sold in the USA. Though if you're based overseas it's pretty easy to get...

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