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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 8:19 am
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I have a new favorite! Angels Envy. Bought a bottle last week and enjoyed some on the rocks over the weekend. Very good taste with a smooth, late kick. Definitely a step up from Woodford, Basil or Makers.
Since I can't find Pappy in these parts (and I'm still kicking myself for not buying multiple bottles 2 years ago), this will be my go to bourbon.
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 8:42 am
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Haven't consumed any in maybe 3 years. As i recall, AV is aged in Port barrels. Kind of a different flavor profile. Can't say I loved it or hated it. This I can say - it took me a long time to get rid of the 3 I bought for my bar. Just about all the 50 other Bourbons sold better. In fact I may have consumed most of it, being a team player & all.
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Originally Posted by whackyjacky
Haven't consumed any in maybe 3 years. As i recall, AV is aged in Port barrels. Kind of a different flavor profile. Can't say I loved it or hated it. This I can say - it took me a long time to get rid of the 3 I bought for my bar. Just about all the 50 other Bourbons sold better. In fact I may have consumed most of it, being a team player & all.
If it is aged in Port barrels, it is probably not "real" bourbon?

And you are a credit to your industry, taking it for the team and making sure every bourbon finds a home. ;-)
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by whackyjacky
Haven't consumed any in maybe 3 years. As i recall, AV is aged in Port barrels. Kind of a different flavor profile. Can't say I loved it or hated it. This I can say - it took me a long time to get rid of the 3 I bought for my bar. Just about all the 50 other Bourbons sold better. In fact I may have consumed most of it, being a team player & all.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 3:39 pm
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I found another great Bourbon bar/restaurant in London. http://www.burgerandlobster.com/

They have Pappy 12 year old Bourbon and Pappy Family Reserve Rye, 13 years old, plus Bookers and all the other top names. 12 pounds a glass for the Pappy and the glass is poured quite healthy.

The Pappy bourbon was just as smooth as you'd expect, but I was disappointed by the Pappy Rye. It was unmistakably Rye but not at all smooth, nor as good as some other Rye's I've tried recently.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 8:09 pm
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Originally Posted by stimpy
I found another great Bourbon bar/restaurant in London. http://www.burgerandlobster.com/

They have Pappy 12 year old Bourbon and Pappy Family Reserve Rye, 13 years old, plus Bookers and all the other top names. 12 pounds a glass for the Pappy and the glass is poured quite healthy.

The Pappy bourbon was just as smooth as you'd expect, but I was disappointed by the Pappy Rye. It was unmistakably Rye but not at all smooth, nor as good as some other Rye's I've tried recently.
Good food, great Bourbon, and now "A HEALTHY POUR" ? Today's London has nothing in common with the one I knew.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by whackyjacky
Good food, great Bourbon, and now "A HEALTHY POUR" ? Today's London has nothing in common with the one I knew.
My Mother went to Oxford from 1983-1985. She tells some great stories about how things used to be
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 2:23 am
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Originally Posted by whackyjacky
Good food, great Bourbon, and now "A HEALTHY POUR" ? Today's London has nothing in common with the one I knew.
You're right. Across all of the UK and Ireland, every pub and bar pours carefully measured shots. I can only think of a few high end hotel bars, like the Four Seasons London, that allow their bar staff to free pour into a glass. I'm not sure if that's the reason this place is so popular, but it can't hurt. Get there early by the way as it fills up quickly around 6:30pm every night.

I didn't try the Pappy Rye at first since I could see the bottle was nearly empty and probably not enough there for a healthy pour. Then I noticed that there was another full bottle right behind it! Ditto for the Bourbon. No shortage of Pappy here.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 6:05 am
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Any where in the world they have those 'milking machines' behind the bar, I just automatically order a triple.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 7:02 am
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Speaking of the change in British pubs, did anyone see this article from last month's Times?

Saving an Endangered British Species: The Pub
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by stimpy
I found another great Bourbon bar/restaurant in London. http://www.burgerandlobster.com/

They have Pappy 12 year old Bourbon and Pappy Family Reserve Rye, 13 years old, plus Bookers and all the other top names. 12 pounds a glass for the Pappy and the glass is poured quite healthy.

The Pappy bourbon was just as smooth as you'd expect, but I was disappointed by the Pappy Rye. It was unmistakably Rye but not at all smooth, nor as good as some other Rye's I've tried recently.
Not to be a nit picker but there is no such thing as Pappy 12 yo Bourbon or Pappy Family Reserve... it's Van Winkle Special Reserve 12 year, Lot B and Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye, 12 yo... I know it's semantics but it's kind of like spelling it QUANTAS.....

That all being said, 12 pounds is a very very respectable price for a pour... I've always preferred the Old Rip Van Winkle 10 yo to the 12 yo but it is still quite delicious...

In the UK, look for Blantons Straight from the Barrel and Blantons Gold. Neither product is sold in the US and they are both delicious... I've also seen fairly good availability of another exceptional bourbon in the UK, the Four Roses 125 Anniversary Small Batch Limited Edition... it's quite a nice pour....

Originally Posted by drwilliams
If it is aged in Port barrels, it is probably not "real" bourbon?

And you are a credit to your industry, taking it for the team and making sure every bourbon finds a home. ;-)
I think that Angel's Ency is just finished in port barrels. Much of the aging, as per the bourbon rules takes place in new American Oak barrels...

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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 9:08 am
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There is a great Bourbon Selection in London at the IC Westminster Blue Boar Bar. They have Pappy Van Winkle family reserve 20 yo at circa 22 a glass. They have Buffalo Trace in the Club Lounge too.

I like Burger Lobster but the long waits for a table tend to put me off.

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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by stimpy
You're right. Across all of the UK and Ireland, every pub and bar pours carefully measured shots. I can only think of a few high end hotel bars, like the Four Seasons London, that allow their bar staff to free pour into a glass. I'm not sure if that's the reason this place is so popular, but it can't hurt. Get there early by the way as it fills up quickly around 6:30pm every night.

I didn't try the Pappy Rye at first since I could see the bottle was nearly empty and probably not enough there for a healthy pour. Then I noticed that there was another full bottle right behind it! Ditto for the Bourbon. No shortage of Pappy here.
just to let you guys know, an Irish bar will pour a standard measure of 35.5ml (1.2oz), whereas a UK bar has a standard measure of just 25ml (0.8oz)
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 7:01 pm
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Originally Posted by dparis
just to let you guys know, an Irish bar will pour a standard measure of 35.5ml (1.2oz), whereas a UK bar has a standard measure of just 25ml (0.8oz)
This means I only need to order a double !
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