The "Turducken" thread [merged]
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But if you are stating that the issue I bring up (the inner skins of the stuffed birds do not crisp when cooked) and frying will take care of this crisping/rendering of the innner bird's skins/fat, it won't. Frying won't solve this downfall of turducken as the oil is still not touching the innner skins/fat.
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I've had fried turkey and it was terrific, no doubt.
But if you are stating that the issue I bring up (the inner skins of the stuffed birds do not crisp when cooked) and frying will take care of this crisping/rendering of the innner bird's skins/fat, it won't. Frying won't solve this downfall of turducken as the oil is still not touching the innner skins/fat.
But if you are stating that the issue I bring up (the inner skins of the stuffed birds do not crisp when cooked) and frying will take care of this crisping/rendering of the innner bird's skins/fat, it won't. Frying won't solve this downfall of turducken as the oil is still not touching the innner skins/fat.
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The TPA TSA was kind enough to inspect the turducken that I checked as my luggage. 
After about 13 hours of cooking, this was the result:

Carved:

We fed about 22 people with this and had maybe four to six servings leftover.

After about 13 hours of cooking, this was the result:

Carved:

We fed about 22 people with this and had maybe four to six servings leftover.
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Now Look What You've Done
Thanks for the update & photos
Now after all these years thinking about it
I'll take my wife there this week for dinner
Always thought it might be fun but never
got around to it
Years ago the building was a Sizzlin Sirloin
but it's been Karl Ehmer's a long time
Now after all these years thinking about it
I'll take my wife there this week for dinner
Always thought it might be fun but never
got around to it
Years ago the building was a Sizzlin Sirloin
but it's been Karl Ehmer's a long time
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These guys remove the chicken and duck skin
The huge downfall of Turducken IMO is that the skin of the birds inside the turkey, never crisps as it is not exposed to the oven air. The fat doesn't render fully as if the bird was being roasted on it's own. This leads to gobs of fat, fat is where the flavor is but too too much on the Turkducken's I've tried and cooked. (I love the idea of Turkducken but it doesn't translate well to cooking IMO).
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One caution: use an electric knife to carve it. I wanted a "Neapolitan ice cream" of meat, but it was so tender and juicy, it literally fell apart when I was carving it (and I used a very sharp ceramic knife). Still fantastically good though.
Going to order another one and cook it on my Big Green Egg when things warm up a bit more.
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But if you are stating that the issue I bring up (the inner skins of the stuffed birds do not crisp when cooked) and frying will take care of this crisping/rendering of the innner bird's skins/fat, it won't. Frying won't solve this downfall of turducken as the oil is still not touching the innner skins/fat.
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Homemade Turducken
I made a turducken for Thanksgiving this year. I made a variation of just using breast meats. Here is what it looked like when I took it out of the oven!
I used a boneless turkey breast - the butcher deboned it for me. Boneless duck breasts - found these at a butchers and a local grocery store (Wegmans) and boneless chicken breasts.
I skinned the duck and chicken breasts but did leave some of the fat on to keep it moist.
One skin-on seasoned, boneless turkey breast. Layer of dressing with cranberries and dates on the turkey. Layer of skinless, seasoned duck breasts. Layer of sage and onion dressing on the duck breats. Layer of skinless, seasoned chicken breasts. Layer of cornbread, jalapeo and pecan dressing. Everything tied into a giant football shaped thing with string.
Baked at 350 for 4 1/2 hours until internal temp reached 165-170. I cooked it uncovered till nicely browned and then covered pretty tightly with foil, making a few vent holes. Basted often with white wine. I made an awsome gravy from the drippings.
Allow to rest and then wrapped in foil. Going to slice it and reheat the slices tomorrow at a party. This way everything "stays together" and looks like it's suppose to. If you cut it hot it will fall apart.
The real flavor for me is the stuffing/dressing.
I think a good idea would be to brine the turkey breast first and that would help keep everything moist. Will try that next time!


I used a boneless turkey breast - the butcher deboned it for me. Boneless duck breasts - found these at a butchers and a local grocery store (Wegmans) and boneless chicken breasts.
I skinned the duck and chicken breasts but did leave some of the fat on to keep it moist.
One skin-on seasoned, boneless turkey breast. Layer of dressing with cranberries and dates on the turkey. Layer of skinless, seasoned duck breasts. Layer of sage and onion dressing on the duck breats. Layer of skinless, seasoned chicken breasts. Layer of cornbread, jalapeo and pecan dressing. Everything tied into a giant football shaped thing with string.
Baked at 350 for 4 1/2 hours until internal temp reached 165-170. I cooked it uncovered till nicely browned and then covered pretty tightly with foil, making a few vent holes. Basted often with white wine. I made an awsome gravy from the drippings.
Allow to rest and then wrapped in foil. Going to slice it and reheat the slices tomorrow at a party. This way everything "stays together" and looks like it's suppose to. If you cut it hot it will fall apart.
The real flavor for me is the stuffing/dressing.
I think a good idea would be to brine the turkey breast first and that would help keep everything moist. Will try that next time!


Last edited by MoreMilesPlease; Dec 1, 2010 at 7:05 pm Reason: Added some more cooking directions.
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Hearing so much about this in Northern Calfornia on business, I thought I would take the plunge and take one back to the Alps.
Cold and wet Oakland flight to wet Long Beach (JetBlue) and a quick ride to Whole Foods, City of Torrance. The Butcher was very helpful and said it could be done if packed in dry ice. That done, it was and out I departed from LAX homeward bound.
Price was $104 USD, which is about the same price in our CHF.
On arrival home the next day, my package made it through the dreaded Zoll without incident, other than bemused looks from the Officers ( Whole Foods provided documents ). Packed in a Cool-lite carton surrounded by dry ice, it is still quite cold, almost frozen as packaged.
I was told that our British residents call this a ROYAL ROAST, and have some history behind said claim. Whole Foods advised to bake it with Paprika or Chipotle (a smoked Mexican chile pod) sprinkled on the top skin: I only have Spanish Pimenton Dulce or Ahumado I use for Paella, so I hope this is acceptable to our guests, as it is doubtful our Migros or Coop stocks Chipotle anytime soon.
Also advised as mentioned above on baking time and internal temperatures. But I have absolutely no idea what the stuffing seasoning is, so this will be an interesting experience for all.
Any suggestions for a good wine with this dish ?
Cold and wet Oakland flight to wet Long Beach (JetBlue) and a quick ride to Whole Foods, City of Torrance. The Butcher was very helpful and said it could be done if packed in dry ice. That done, it was and out I departed from LAX homeward bound.
Price was $104 USD, which is about the same price in our CHF.
On arrival home the next day, my package made it through the dreaded Zoll without incident, other than bemused looks from the Officers ( Whole Foods provided documents ). Packed in a Cool-lite carton surrounded by dry ice, it is still quite cold, almost frozen as packaged.
I was told that our British residents call this a ROYAL ROAST, and have some history behind said claim. Whole Foods advised to bake it with Paprika or Chipotle (a smoked Mexican chile pod) sprinkled on the top skin: I only have Spanish Pimenton Dulce or Ahumado I use for Paella, so I hope this is acceptable to our guests, as it is doubtful our Migros or Coop stocks Chipotle anytime soon.
Also advised as mentioned above on baking time and internal temperatures. But I have absolutely no idea what the stuffing seasoning is, so this will be an interesting experience for all.
Any suggestions for a good wine with this dish ?
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Cooked for guests (22, with two abstentions due to the flu ).
This was a very impressive platter, which my wife elected to carve. The Pimenton fragrance on the skin of the bird was amazing. Solid Turkey, Chicken, Duck meat layers, with ( surprise ) no stuffing !
As we had started on high to a low setting, we are glad it did not burst. On the subject of a paired wine, we offered both: A Pinot Noir, and Cabernet Sauvignon for the red, and a Pinot Grigio and MullerThurgau/Sylvaner (Bozen) for white.
What an evening. Thank all who contributed to this thread for the idea !
This was a very impressive platter, which my wife elected to carve. The Pimenton fragrance on the skin of the bird was amazing. Solid Turkey, Chicken, Duck meat layers, with ( surprise ) no stuffing !
As we had started on high to a low setting, we are glad it did not burst. On the subject of a paired wine, we offered both: A Pinot Noir, and Cabernet Sauvignon for the red, and a Pinot Grigio and MullerThurgau/Sylvaner (Bozen) for white.
What an evening. Thank all who contributed to this thread for the idea !


