ExpertFlyer and Delta Air Lines: The Definitive Thread
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#889
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Why would Delta display the number of Medallions as available standby seats for coach with 2 seats available in F?!
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I'm confused - are you talking about a flight you are on right now (as stated in your most recent post) or a flight tomorrow, which you initially stated?
#892
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I think what the OP means is why does the upgrade list show 15 available coach seats on a certain flight, while ExpertFlyer shows only Y1.
When we are added to the Upgrade List and click view upgrade list we have pop up that shows open seats in F and open seats in Coach. I think that is what the OP is referring to- not the number of Medallions on the upgrade list for F.
Personally, I'd like to myself. Many times I see ExpertFlyer showing close to no availability and I'm excited for a possible oversold situation, yet Delta.com's upgrade list pop-up shows many coach seats available. Why is that?
-Kinglobjaw
When we are added to the Upgrade List and click view upgrade list we have pop up that shows open seats in F and open seats in Coach. I think that is what the OP is referring to- not the number of Medallions on the upgrade list for F.
Personally, I'd like to myself. Many times I see ExpertFlyer showing close to no availability and I'm excited for a possible oversold situation, yet Delta.com's upgrade list pop-up shows many coach seats available. Why is that?
-Kinglobjaw
#893
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I think what the OP means is why does the upgrade list show 15 available coach seats on a certain flight, while ExpertFlyer shows only Y1.
When we are added to the Upgrade List and click view upgrade list we have pop up that shows open seats in F and open seats in Coach. I think that is what the OP is referring to- not the number of Medallions on the upgrade list for F.
Personally, I'd like to myself. Many times I see ExpertFlyer showing close to no availability and I'm excited for a possible oversold situation, yet Delta.com's upgrade list pop-up shows many coach seats available. Why is that?
-Kinglobjaw
When we are added to the Upgrade List and click view upgrade list we have pop up that shows open seats in F and open seats in Coach. I think that is what the OP is referring to- not the number of Medallions on the upgrade list for F.
Personally, I'd like to myself. Many times I see ExpertFlyer showing close to no availability and I'm excited for a possible oversold situation, yet Delta.com's upgrade list pop-up shows many coach seats available. Why is that?
-Kinglobjaw
#894
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I think what the OP means is why does the upgrade list show 15 available coach seats on a certain flight, while ExpertFlyer shows only Y1.
When we are added to the Upgrade List and click view upgrade list we have pop up that shows open seats in F and open seats in Coach. I think that is what the OP is referring to- not the number of Medallions on the upgrade list for F.
Personally, I'd like to myself. Many times I see ExpertFlyer showing close to no availability and I'm excited for a possible oversold situation, yet Delta.com's upgrade list pop-up shows many coach seats available. Why is that?
-Kinglobjaw
When we are added to the Upgrade List and click view upgrade list we have pop up that shows open seats in F and open seats in Coach. I think that is what the OP is referring to- not the number of Medallions on the upgrade list for F.
Personally, I'd like to myself. Many times I see ExpertFlyer showing close to no availability and I'm excited for a possible oversold situation, yet Delta.com's upgrade list pop-up shows many coach seats available. Why is that?
-Kinglobjaw
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#898
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Strange ExpertFlyer results for F fare
Very strange results when searching ExperFlyer for FC on Friday...
Using Awards & Upgrades tab, select CLT-SRQ 6 AM flight and enter other fare class "F" (did not select any other options): DL 2054 (CLT-ATL) shows F8 and DL 1514 (ATL-SRQ) shows F2
Using Awards & Upgrades tab, select ATL-SRQ 8 AM flight and enter other fare class "F" (did not select any other options): DL 1514 (ATL-SRQ) shows F7
Using Flight Availability tab, select CLT-SRQ 6 AM and enter fare class "F" only: same F8/F2 results
Using Flight Availability tab, select ATL-SRQ 8 AM and enter fare class "F" only: same F7 results
Curious as to why connecting flights show F2 only (I would expect this if the CLT-ATL flight had fewer F seats but that's obviously not the case.
Using Awards & Upgrades tab, select CLT-SRQ 6 AM flight and enter other fare class "F" (did not select any other options): DL 2054 (CLT-ATL) shows F8 and DL 1514 (ATL-SRQ) shows F2
Using Awards & Upgrades tab, select ATL-SRQ 8 AM flight and enter other fare class "F" (did not select any other options): DL 1514 (ATL-SRQ) shows F7
Using Flight Availability tab, select CLT-SRQ 6 AM and enter fare class "F" only: same F8/F2 results
Using Flight Availability tab, select ATL-SRQ 8 AM and enter fare class "F" only: same F7 results
Curious as to why connecting flights show F2 only (I would expect this if the CLT-ATL flight had fewer F seats but that's obviously not the case.
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As has been discussed many times in the threads...
Seat availability on Expert Flyer only shows the number of seats Delta is willing to sell on any given flight. Y=1 means they will only sell one more coach seat.
Seat availability via the seat map is absolutely no indication of a flight being oversold, undersold or right at capacity. The online seat maps do not show the number of seats reserved for airport assignment. 15 open seats simply means there are plenty of people who have booked seats on the flight but have no seat assignment.
-RM
Seat availability on Expert Flyer only shows the number of seats Delta is willing to sell on any given flight. Y=1 means they will only sell one more coach seat.
Seat availability via the seat map is absolutely no indication of a flight being oversold, undersold or right at capacity. The online seat maps do not show the number of seats reserved for airport assignment. 15 open seats simply means there are plenty of people who have booked seats on the flight but have no seat assignment.
-RM
#900
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As has been discussed many times in the threads...
Seat availability on Expert Flyer only shows the number of seats Delta is willing to sell on any given flight. Y=1 means they will only sell one more coach seat.
Seat availability via the seat map is absolutely no indication of a flight being oversold, undersold or right at capacity. The online seat maps do not show the number of seats reserved for airport assignment. 15 open seats simply means there are plenty of people who have booked seats on the flight but have no seat assignment.
-RM
Seat availability on Expert Flyer only shows the number of seats Delta is willing to sell on any given flight. Y=1 means they will only sell one more coach seat.
Seat availability via the seat map is absolutely no indication of a flight being oversold, undersold or right at capacity. The online seat maps do not show the number of seats reserved for airport assignment. 15 open seats simply means there are plenty of people who have booked seats on the flight but have no seat assignment.
-RM
I think that the OP is referring to the number of seats that show as available on the upgrade list, not on the seat map.