Sky Club Access Lines and Waiting due to capacity
Sep 20, 2022, 8:44 pm
#541
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Wonder if I would be granted the same courtesy as I am a permanent wheelchair user but wheel myself. Seems like line cutting without staff assisting me or calling me up to the front.
Sep 20, 2022, 8:51 pm
#542
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Go for it, saw someone in a mechanical inside, not sure if he cut the line but he came in after us and wasnt in the line when we walked by it.
Sep 21, 2022, 5:03 am
#543
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if a couple of people cheat because we adopt a system that helps a lot of people who otherwise would be extremely hindered, that seems like a very small price to pay. move on with your life and forget about it.
Sep 21, 2022, 7:01 am
#544
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Great. Now the bloggers will start suggesting that their credit card customers use wheelchair service even though they don't need it, just so that they can get into SCs quickly and ahead of other DL customers.
Sep 21, 2022, 7:04 am
#545
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It can be far more than a couple people on the miracle flights. This practice can create waits for those who really need wheelchairs and increases cost unnecessarily for the airline or airport that is paying for the service. It also causes the miracle flights to require more time to board, thus straining GA staff shortages and potentially delaying all passengers, including those who do not cheat in this way.
Sep 21, 2022, 9:03 am
#546
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It can be far more than a couple people on the miracle flights. This practice can create waits for those who really need wheelchairs and increases cost unnecessarily for the airline or airport that is paying for the service. It also causes the miracle flights to require more time to board, thus straining GA staff shortages and potentially delaying all passengers, including those who do not cheat in this way.
Sep 21, 2022, 9:12 am
#547
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"It can be far more than a couple people on the miracle flights. This practice can create waits for those who really need wheelchairs and increases cost unnecessarily for the airline or airport that is paying for the service. It also causes the miracle flights to require more time to board, thus straining GA staff shortages and potentially delaying all passengers, including those who do not cheat in this way."
100% agree. Take a winter flight on WN to FLL, MCO, RSW, etc. It's disgusting how many abuse the preboard privilege and suddenly walk off the plane upon arrival without an issue. This same group will be the ones abusing DL's policy.
100% agree. Take a winter flight on WN to FLL, MCO, RSW, etc. It's disgusting how many abuse the preboard privilege and suddenly walk off the plane upon arrival without an issue. This same group will be the ones abusing DL's policy.
Sep 21, 2022, 12:58 pm
#548
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Two weeks ago--ATL-LAS 12 wheel chairs. Upon landing I saw 4 of those who supposedly needed them in ATL moving without issues in LAS. Could have been more, but I was upfront on a 757. So those are just the ones I saw. And yes, the wheel chairs were waiting in the jetway. They just hustled past them trying to beat everyone to the escalators to the trams. I fly this route (and vv) frequently. This behavior happens on almost every flight.
Sep 21, 2022, 3:33 pm
#549
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Two weeks ago--ATL-LAS 12 wheel chairs. Upon landing I saw 4 of those who supposedly needed them in ATL moving without issues in LAS. Could have been more, but I was upfront on a 757. So those are just the ones I saw. And yes, the wheel chairs were waiting in the jetway. They just hustled past them trying to beat everyone to the escalators to the trams. I fly this route (and vv) frequently. This behavior happens on almost every flight.
Sep 21, 2022, 3:37 pm
#550
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Topic check please. This is not a thread to debate wheel chairs. Please keep this thread on topic to avoid a post deletion/cleanup.
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Ryandc99 Moderator Delta Air Lines
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Sep 21, 2022, 7:13 pm
#551
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I feel like I see these posts every week now. (Seems
shorter than before though? Or maybe bc 2:45 pm is earlier than most transatlantic passengers arrive?)
https://twitter.com/mattcaviation/st...IbRGC2Nqmo8eeA
shorter than before though? Or maybe bc 2:45 pm is earlier than most transatlantic passengers arrive?)
https://twitter.com/mattcaviation/st...IbRGC2Nqmo8eeA
What was interesting though, is that when I got upstairs I saw at least 20 seats open (no bags near them, all plates and glasses cleared) and that was just on the side I walked through. I'm not sure how they're tracking headcount but it might need a little fine tuning.
Sep 21, 2022, 7:20 pm
#552
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My understanding is that capacity limits are basically set by fire marshal regulations and aren't necessarily tied to the number of empty seats. Moreover, people could take their belongings to the lavatories or when they queue to talk to an agent during IROPs or stop at the buffet or bar before finding a seat.
Sep 21, 2022, 9:16 pm
#553
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Sep 22, 2022, 2:28 am
#554
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Sep 22, 2022, 6:55 am
#555
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New for me - T, Both A, B and C ATL clubs full
I've never seen this nor been denied entry due to capacity before let alone several clubs at once.
What is going on?!
What is going on?!