Delta to retire 717, 767-300ER and CRJ-200
Dec 22, 2020, 9:58 pm
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The real problem is there aren't too many CR7's left. Endeavor has something like 18 and I think SkyWest will be down to 3 primarily for Aspen ops.
Since the CRJ-production line is shut down now who knows what the future will hold or what the ability would be to pick up some used regional aircraft with green time.
Since the CRJ-production line is shut down now who knows what the future will hold or what the ability would be to pick up some used regional aircraft with green time.
Dec 23, 2020, 8:09 am
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Dec 23, 2020, 10:02 am
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I definitely don't mind an ERJ if I can get a solo seat in the 1-2 set-up. Being on the 2 side of the ERJ-135/145 is about the same as being on a CRJ-200 though.
Dec 23, 2020, 10:28 am
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On the SkyWest side for DL, I'm not exactly sure what happened with the CR7's, other than they seemed to have gone away to take on CR9's and E75's, both in 70 and 76 seat configurations.
Dec 23, 2020, 1:19 pm
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I think the -550 makes sense if you assume all capital costs are sunk, which in this market is a pretty reasonable assumption. The -550's are also important because not only do they have just one FA, but they also fall into a different bucket of aircraft for scope clause purposes.
I'm actually shocked that DL hasn't copied UA on this one.
Dec 23, 2020, 1:45 pm
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Dec 23, 2020, 7:37 pm
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Most of the ExpressJet operated CR7's went to SkyWest for the AA operation if I remember correctly. The GoJet CR7's I believe are what are with Endeavor today.
On the SkyWest side for DL, I'm not exactly sure what happened with the CR7's, other than they seemed to have gone away to take on CR9's and E75's, both in 70 and 76 seat configurations.
On the SkyWest side for DL, I'm not exactly sure what happened with the CR7's, other than they seemed to have gone away to take on CR9's and E75's, both in 70 and 76 seat configurations.
Dec 23, 2020, 7:44 pm
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Dec 23, 2020, 7:44 pm
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It would be nice to have Delta bring back the ERJs. They had some flying with Shuttle America up through 2016 and then they quietly disposed of them. There are a lot of routes that I can't see Delta putting a CR9 on which means post 2025 those small cities are going to be SOL.
Dec 23, 2020, 7:48 pm
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767 routes are being upgauged to A330s. Those former A330 routes are being upgauged to A350s. Obviously no A380s in the fleet, but it's very hard to like the economics of the A380, and it's not suited to DL's network
Dec 23, 2020, 7:54 pm
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Right, but when compared to AA and UA, DL on the whole leans towards smaller widebody aircraft. Both AA and UA have sizable 777 fleets including 77Ws. With Delta parting with 747s and 777s, on the whole I’d say Delta prefers smaller widebody aircraft compared with their direct competitors.
Dec 28, 2020, 12:00 pm
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Amazon.com acquired three Delta 767-300s on December 23rd. Presumably for cargo conversion but with Amazon you never know!
https://cargofacts.com/allposts/busi...ith-more-767s/
https://cargofacts.com/allposts/busi...ith-more-767s/
Dec 28, 2020, 3:32 pm
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Dec 28, 2020, 7:26 pm
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Dec 30, 2020, 9:05 pm
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All three of the B767-300ER's were Delta's youngest (built 2000-2001), and were the "T" versions (the longest ranged of what DL had). Delta had a total of seven (all of which were Withdrawn From Use (WFU). So, it may not be surprising that Amazon might be looking at the other four also. All seven had the same GE engines and built at the same time (2000-2001). Tail numbers: N1607B, N1608, N1609, and N1613B are the four still with Delta. Tail Numbers: N1610D, N1611B, and N1613B are now with Amazon. The probable conversions to freighters is likely. I currently have not looked at Amazon's fleet of B767-300ER freighters to see if these are just replacements or additions to.