Columbus CMH - no SkyClub
Aug 2, 2022, 8:22 pm
#76
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The dirtiest skyclub is still cleaner than the cleanest gate.
The most crowded skyclub is still roomier than any crowded gate.
Free tequila versus $15 from an airport bar.
Free average food I can eat within a minute of entering the club versus standing in line for average food.
Private showers versus watching some dude splash water and hand soap on his twig and berries in a concourse restroom (ATL a few months ago and LGA about 9 years ago).
As they say; shut up and take my money.
The most crowded skyclub is still roomier than any crowded gate.
Free tequila versus $15 from an airport bar.
Free average food I can eat within a minute of entering the club versus standing in line for average food.
Private showers versus watching some dude splash water and hand soap on his twig and berries in a concourse restroom (ATL a few months ago and LGA about 9 years ago).
As they say; shut up and take my money.
and who doesn't like the "I'm going to take a shower in the ATL bathroom sink" type of people?
Aug 2, 2022, 9:08 pm
#77
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I grew up in South Jersey (it's not New England or New York or South, so Mid-Atlantic), and spent a year in B-school in Lafayette, IN (REALLY Midwest), and have lived the last 44 years (except for two in Tokyo) near Detroit. I have many relatives in the Pittsburgh area. I would agree there's a common thread among the former industrial cities of the region (PIT, CLE, DTW, CHI, MKE, maybe even BUF) that just feels different. Definitely not Midwest and not East Coast. Except for PIT, we all have easy access to the Great Lakes, so maybe it is okay to call it a Great Lakes culture. Now I don't know where that leaves CMH, since it's really not a former industrial city and is nowhere near a Great Lake. Maybe it's the city without a region
Aug 2, 2022, 9:15 pm
#78
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Ummm...I get that "Midwest" conjures up a wholesome image in the American mind, so lots of places like to claim to be in the Midwest, but I've lived in the Detroit burbs for 42 of the last 44 years, and Detroit definitely is not Midwestern.
Aug 2, 2022, 9:34 pm
#79
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Aug 2, 2022, 10:42 pm
#80
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Most people define midwest by state, so that PIT and BUF wouldn't be in the midwest. OTOH, if one thinks of the northern part of the central time zone, Ohio and most of Michigan wouldn't be considered to be in the midwest. (I need to constantly remind myself that DTW follows eastern time; I've come very close to missing connections over this.)
Aug 3, 2022, 5:50 am
#81
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Most people define midwest by state, so that PIT and BUF wouldn't be in the midwest. OTOH, if one thinks of the northern part of the central time zone, Ohio and most of Michigan wouldn't be considered to be in the midwest. (I need to constantly remind myself that DTW follows eastern time; I've come very close to missing connections over this.)
Aug 3, 2022, 6:17 am
#82
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I think it depends upon what one compares Detroit to. Iowa or the Eastern Seaboard. It's closer to Iowa. Sorry 'bout that.
Aug 3, 2022, 7:20 am
#83
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Well, I guess we travel in different circles as I grew up 40 miles to the west of Detroit and have always considered region to be part of the Midwest. Again, if you look at most references, Michigan is quite firmly included in definition of Midwest. Maybe it's just a Boomer thing and you younger folks take the term literally.
Aug 3, 2022, 7:47 am
#85
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I grew up in South Jersey (it's not New England or New York or South, so Mid-Atlantic), and spent a year in B-school in Lafayette, IN (REALLY Midwest), and have lived the last 44 years (except for two in Tokyo) near Detroit. I have many relatives in the Pittsburgh area. I would agree there's a common thread among the former industrial cities of the region (PIT, CLE, DTW, CHI, MKE, maybe even BUF) that just feels different. Definitely not Midwest and not East Coast. Except for PIT, we all have easy access to the Great Lakes, so maybe it is okay to call it a Great Lakes culture. Now I don't know where that leaves CMH, since it's really not a former industrial city and is nowhere near a Great Lake. Maybe it's the city without a region
Aug 3, 2022, 8:30 am
#86
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perhaps you're confused about the differences between cities and the country?
Aug 3, 2022, 10:29 am
#87
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I moved from Lincoln, NE (midwestern literally and figuratively) to Cleveland and was surprised to find everyone here calling themselves midwestern. All the cities being rattled off could also be considered Rust Belt, but that’s a fairly negative identity. I like the Great Lakes association. I feel that Rochester is more like Cleveland than Cleveland is like St. Louis.
Getting back to the Escape Lounge location. SFO Centurian lounge is also not in the Delta terminal. I wonder if Amex is trying to appeal beyond the Delta FF?
Getting back to the Escape Lounge location. SFO Centurian lounge is also not in the Delta terminal. I wonder if Amex is trying to appeal beyond the Delta FF?
Aug 3, 2022, 11:43 am
#88
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I moved from Lincoln, NE (midwestern literally and figuratively) to Cleveland and was surprised to find everyone here calling themselves midwestern. All the cities being rattled off could also be considered Rust Belt, but that’s a fairly negative identity. I like the Great Lakes association. I feel that Rochester is more like Cleveland than Cleveland is like St. Louis.
The semi-conspiracy theorist in me almost wonders if this was purposeful to entice DL flyers in CMH to get a CC that would allow them into a SC or AmEx Lounges when flying DL by advertising access but by having the club in a terminal other than one DL uses, the club wouldn't see as high of operating costs by not seeing as much usage through not being in DL terminal.
Aug 3, 2022, 12:00 pm
#89
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"The emergent consensus among scholars is that, of the 14 million prisoners who passed through the Gulag camps and the 4 million prisoners who passed through the Gulag colonies from 1930 to 1953, roughly 1.5 to 1.7 million prisoners perished there or died soon after their release"
"Among the prisoners there are some so ragged and lice-ridden that they pose a sanitary danger to the rest. These prisoners have deteriorated to the point of losing any resemblance to human beings. Lacking food…they collect orts [refuse] and, according to some prisoners, eat rats and dogs."
I get you are trying to be ha-ha funny about lounges, but I see no world in which a lounge is "a step above a gulag". Do they have issues? Sure. But I really don't understand this level of hyperbole for them. Maybe your experiences have been far worse than mine.
"Among the prisoners there are some so ragged and lice-ridden that they pose a sanitary danger to the rest. These prisoners have deteriorated to the point of losing any resemblance to human beings. Lacking food…they collect orts [refuse] and, according to some prisoners, eat rats and dogs."
I get you are trying to be ha-ha funny about lounges, but I see no world in which a lounge is "a step above a gulag". Do they have issues? Sure. But I really don't understand this level of hyperbole for them. Maybe your experiences have been far worse than mine.
I guess I am not sure of your point with this? Is it to prove that hyperbole worked?
Edit: NVM....
Last edited by FlyingBeanCounter; Aug 3, 2022 at 12:49 pm
Aug 3, 2022, 5:14 pm
#90
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Red Coat told me several months ago CMH is scheduled to get a Sky Club when the new terminal opens, whenever that is. This may happen sooner v later because of the new Intel plants opening very close to the airport