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hockeyinsider Mar 24, 19 2:33 pm

Columbus CMH - no SkyClub
 
I'm really surprised that Delta doesn't have a Sky Club in Columbus. Especially considering the fact that Columbus is the second-biggest city in the Midwest, beyond only Chicago. Yes, I realize Columbus isn't a hub -- it isn't a hub for any airline -- but it's amazing there isn't a Delta lounge, let alone a Priority Pass lounge.

Stepping off the soapbox now.

LBJ Mar 24, 19 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by hockeyinsider (Post 30924664)
I'm really surprised that Delta doesn't have a Sky Club in Columbus. Especially considering the fact that Columbus is the second-biggest city in the Midwest, beyond only Chicago. Yes, I realize Columbus isn't a hub -- it isn't a hub for any airline -- but it's amazing there isn't a Delta lounge, let alone a Priority Pass lounge.

Stepping off the soapbox now.

City size is not a very important metric for airlines. Catchment area is a far more important metric and the Columbus catchment is likely somewhat smaller than Cleveland (which also has no Sky Club).

MCO Flyer Mar 24, 19 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by hockeyinsider (Post 30924664)
I'm really surprised that Delta doesn't have a Sky Club in Columbus. Especially considering the fact that Columbus is the second-biggest city in the Midwest, beyond only Chicago. Yes, I realize Columbus isn't a hub -- it isn't a hub for any airline -- but it's amazing there isn't a Delta lounge, let alone a Priority Pass lounge.

Stepping off the soapbox now.

There really isn't any space for any lounge even if DL wanted to put one there. The concourse that DL uses is pretty small and is not connected to either of the other two post security.

Often1 Mar 24, 19 2:59 pm

Population has nothing (or little to do with it). Question is what is the market for a SC? How many people willing to pay for a membership, pay a CC fee, or fly D1?

Singleflyer Mar 24, 19 3:40 pm

CMH was once a hub for America West for what that is worth

3Cforme Mar 24, 19 3:58 pm

When America West announced the end of its Columbus hub it had 49 flights a day to 15 destinations from CMH. That's very small by today's definition of a hub.

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus...10/daily5.html

jdrtravel Mar 24, 19 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by hockeyinsider (Post 30924664)
Especially considering the fact that Columbus is the second-biggest city in the Midwest, beyond only Chicago. .


This is misleading. You really need to consider the size of the metro area, not just the city. When you do Columbus drops down to 8, and it's smaller than both Cleveland and Cincinnati.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...opolitan_areas

Paul E Thomas Mar 24, 19 4:16 pm

There is space in a vacant upper level closed restuarant. Maybe if Delta and CMH can come to agreement on an AMS flight a Skyclub would follow.

DltaSchmlta Mar 24, 19 4:48 pm

My biggest complaint about CMH and Delta is they make you walk past all these unused gates to get to the farthest gate (C56) to get your flight. I think they do it so you have to walk past all the stores and the airport gets more rent. They are the biggest airline in the C concourse and they should have gates closest to security.

jdrtravel Mar 24, 19 5:13 pm


Originally Posted by DltaSchmlta (Post 30925152)
My biggest complaint about CMH and Delta is they make you walk past all these unused gates to get to the farthest gate (C56) to get your flight. I think they do it so you have to walk past all the stores and the airport gets more rent. They are the biggest airline in the C concourse and they should have gates closest to security.


Is it possible that the gates they use are better for operational reasons?

hockeyinsider Mar 24, 19 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 30924771)
Population has nothing (or little to do with it). Question is what is the market for a SC? How many people willing to pay for a membership, pay a CC fee, or fly D1?


Originally Posted by MCO Flyer (Post 30924741)
There really isn't any space for any lounge even if DL wanted to put one there. The concourse that DL uses is pretty small and is not connected to either of the other two post security.


Originally Posted by LBJ (Post 30924725)
City size is not a very important metric for airlines. Catchment area is a far more important metric and the Columbus catchment is likely somewhat smaller than Cleveland (which also has no Sky Club).

Regardless of how you split hairs, Columbus is the biggest city in Ohio and is the second biggest in the Midwest. I can't think of another city with 800,000-plus people without a Sky Club. Plus, you have Fortune 500 companies in or near Columbus on top of one of the biggest public universities in the country.

Just seems odd not to have even a Priority Pass lounge.

pgh234 Mar 24, 19 5:30 pm


Originally Posted by hockeyinsider (Post 30925242)
Regardless of how you split hairs, Columbus is the biggest city in Ohio and is the second biggest in the Midwest. I can't think of another city with 800,000-plus people without a Sky Club. Plus, you have Fortune 500 companies in or near Columbus on top of one of the biggest public universities in the country.

Just seems odd not to have even a Priority Pass lounge.

Umm PIT, just 2-hours away, does not have a SkyClub...and it had the PIT-CDG flight for a decade. It is also a very similar sized operation to CMH (if not a bit larger). I personally have never even wished that PIT have a SkyClub as I never spend any large amount of time there. Like CMH, it is a quick and-and-out for O&D traffic with no one loafing around for connections like in the hubs. PIT does have a new Priority Pass lounge though that, once again, I have never had the need to use.

For an even larger operation, look at BWI with no SkyClub (granted, not in the Midwest...but I am not sure how that fits into your metric)

I also don't consider it to be "splitting hairs" to call CVG and CLE larger populations...because they are. CMH, IND, BNA, etc have all annexed their suburbs to become much larger geographically. PIT, on the other hand, still has the same borders from 1907 I believe. Therefore, in the "city" of Pittsburgh, the population is only 300,000 people with it's relatively tiny geographic footprint. We all know there is not more than double the amount of people that fly out of CMH vs PIT. The catchment area (i.e. people who identify "Pittsburgh" as their home airport) for PIT is somewhere between 2.5 and 4 million people...which would make it quite a bit bigger than CMH. ;)

AANYC1981 Mar 24, 19 5:42 pm

I got a good chuckle reading that article posted above with Doug Parkerís quotes lol.

jdrtravel Mar 24, 19 5:46 pm


Originally Posted by hockeyinsider (Post 30925242)
Regardless of how you split hairs, Columbus is the biggest city in Ohio and is the second biggest in the Midwest. .


It's not splitting hairs to point out that airports serve entire regions, not just the city they are located in. Therefore, the population of the city itself is meaningless. You have to, as I said in my above post, consider the population of a metropolitan area. Since you (bizarrely) are basing your argument about SC's on population, you should also consider this.

WillBarrett_68 Mar 24, 19 6:55 pm

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