Sep 17, 2018, 11:55 am
Last edit by: N515CR
Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y. For all the ERs and the first LR, post-mods config was initially 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB). The post-mods config for all ERs and LRs is now 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1949190-tailored-travel-delta-debut-first-aircraft-all-four-seat-experiences-marc.html
777 D1 Suite PS + Comfort+ retrofit consolidated thread
Dec 19, 2018, 11:25 am
#376
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: PHX Sky Harbor
Posts: 379
QQ here that I also posted in my redemption post. I'm flying ATL>NRT in April in Delta One Suites and the metal is listed as 777 but I thought from TPG/elsewhere that this route was being refreshed on an A350. Will my metal change between now and then?
If not - any ideas on a 777 in this route? I have no doubts it will be enjoyable either way.
If not - any ideas on a 777 in this route? I have no doubts it will be enjoyable either way.
Dec 22, 2018, 6:32 am
#377
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Now in SLC
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N865DA is taking its first revenue flights today and tomorrow since returning from mods. However, the seat maps for those flights (DL 121 MSP-HND today and DL 120 HND-MSP tomorrow) are both showing the 7HD configuation, that is 48 PS but 0 C+ seats.
Dec 26, 2018, 7:22 pm
#379
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: PHX Sky Harbor
Posts: 379
I have been viewing DL's scheduling well into 2019 calendar for where the upgraded 777's will be deployed, and I'm not sure that 8 HD 777-200ER's (7HD's) can cover all that are listed. If you ( I ) pick a date (say September 15th, 2019) the following are the routes being covered by the 8 HD's: MSP-HND-MSP (currently using 2 AC) / MSP-CDG-MSP (currently using 1 AC) / ATL-NRT-ATL (will probably be using 2 AC) / MSP-ICN-MSP (will probably be using 2 AC) / LAX-CDG-LAX (could possibly get by using only 1 AC) / LAX-SYD-LAX (will probably end up using 2 AC). 2+1+2+2+1+2 > 8 (actually = 10). Might it be probable that DL's scheduling is including all upgraded 777's into the HD bucket? Because, logically the schedule WILL NOT WORK. Help me out here attempting to MAKE THE SCHEDULE DO-ABLE. Thanks to all responses and clarifications.
Dec 26, 2018, 7:37 pm
#380
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: MSP
Programs: Delta PM, Hyatt Discoverist, Hertz PC
Posts: 2,303
I have been viewing DL's scheduling well into 2019 calendar for where the upgraded 777's will be deployed, and I'm not sure that 8 HD 777-200ER's (7HD's) can cover all that are listed. If you ( I ) pick a date (say September 15th, 2019) the following are the routes being covered by the 8 HD's: MSP-HND-MSP (currently using 2 AC) / MSP-CDG-MSP (currently using 1 AC) / ATL-NRT-ATL (will probably be using 2 AC) / MSP-ICN-MSP (will probably be using 2 AC) / LAX-CDG-LAX (could possibly get by using only 1 AC) / LAX-SYD-LAX (will probably end up using 2 AC). 2+1+2+2+1+2 > 8 (actually = 10). Might it be probable that DL's scheduling is including all upgraded 777's into the HD bucket? Because, logically the schedule WILL NOT WORK. Help me out here attempting to MAKE THE SCHEDULE DO-ABLE. Thanks to all responses and clarifications.
Dec 26, 2018, 9:42 pm
#381
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: PHX Sky Harbor
Posts: 379
Isnt is possible that ICN-MSP-CDG-MSP-ICN only requires two frames? And, though this seems like more of a stretch, but, SYD-LAX-CDG-LAX-SYD also only requires two frames? If the time on ground is short enough, it might work. Especially if you we’re to construct the five MSP and LAX trips as one super line, something like ICN-MSP-CDG-LAX-SYD-LAX-CDG-MSP-HND-MSP-maintenance-ICN
Dec 27, 2018, 6:06 am
#383
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 85
I have been viewing DL's scheduling well into 2019 calendar for where the upgraded 777's will be deployed, and I'm not sure that 8 HD 777-200ER's (7HD's) can cover all that are listed. If you ( I ) pick a date (say September 15th, 2019) the following are the routes being covered by the 8 HD's: MSP-HND-MSP (currently using 2 AC) / MSP-CDG-MSP (currently using 1 AC) / ATL-NRT-ATL (will probably be using 2 AC) / MSP-ICN-MSP (will probably be using 2 AC) / LAX-CDG-LAX (could possibly get by using only 1 AC) / LAX-SYD-LAX (will probably end up using 2 AC). 2+1+2+2+1+2 > 8 (actually = 10). Might it be probable that DL's scheduling is including all upgraded 777's into the HD bucket? Because, logically the schedule WILL NOT WORK. Help me out here attempting to MAKE THE SCHEDULE DO-ABLE. Thanks to all responses and clarifications.
Dec 28, 2018, 1:26 pm
#384
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: PHX Sky Harbor
Posts: 379
LAX-SYD still shows as 777-200 ER metal, I will figure that all 777-200ERs will be converted by then (aka 777-7HD), but I'm not sure if enough converted LR's will be completed by then (2 needed plus 1 spare). It's been almost a year and only 1 LR has been modded...N706DN. I'm sure all will work out eventually. DL does not want to have to eat crow.
Dec 28, 2018, 1:39 pm
#385
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: PHX Sky Harbor
Posts: 379
There are a few routes that after being the modded 7HDs appear to be moved to A333's....which will not have D1's. The routes are as follows:
MSP-CDG-MSP - end of 2019 October.....shows as a 333 (my guess it will be one of the newer 333 - HGW models I refer to as 33H's)
ATL-CDG-ATL - end of 2019 March.....shows as a 333
LAX-CDG-LAX - end of 2019 September....shows as a 333 (again it will probably be one of the newer 333 - HGW models because of distance)
ATL-AMS-ATL - end of 2019 May......shows as a 333
The above 4 routes have been running with D1 seating - to be returned to non D1 type aircraft. mmmmmm. Will the above be used as some of the first A330-900neos routes (which will have the D1 seating) so customers that would expect to have D1 will not be disappointed? I'm not the expert here, just courious on what DL's thoughts are on their future decisions.
MSP-CDG-MSP - end of 2019 October.....shows as a 333 (my guess it will be one of the newer 333 - HGW models I refer to as 33H's)
ATL-CDG-ATL - end of 2019 March.....shows as a 333
LAX-CDG-LAX - end of 2019 September....shows as a 333 (again it will probably be one of the newer 333 - HGW models because of distance)
ATL-AMS-ATL - end of 2019 May......shows as a 333
The above 4 routes have been running with D1 seating - to be returned to non D1 type aircraft. mmmmmm. Will the above be used as some of the first A330-900neos routes (which will have the D1 seating) so customers that would expect to have D1 will not be disappointed? I'm not the expert here, just courious on what DL's thoughts are on their future decisions.
Dec 28, 2018, 2:10 pm
#386
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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There are a few routes that after being the modded 7HDs appear to be moved to A333's....which will not have D1's. The routes are as follows:
MSP-CDG-MSP - end of 2019 October.....shows as a 333 (my guess it will be one of the newer 333 - HGW models I refer to as 33H's)
ATL-CDG-ATL - end of 2019 March.....shows as a 333
LAX-CDG-LAX - end of 2019 September....shows as a 333 (again it will probably be one of the newer 333 - HGW models because of distance)
ATL-AMS-ATL - end of 2019 May......shows as a 333
The above 4 routes have been running with D1 seating - to be returned to non D1 type aircraft. mmmmmm. Will the above be used as some of the first A330-900neos routes (which will have the D1 seating) so customers that would expect to have D1 will not be disappointed? I'm not the expert here, just courious on what DL's thoughts are on their future decisions.
MSP-CDG-MSP - end of 2019 October.....shows as a 333 (my guess it will be one of the newer 333 - HGW models I refer to as 33H's)
ATL-CDG-ATL - end of 2019 March.....shows as a 333
LAX-CDG-LAX - end of 2019 September....shows as a 333 (again it will probably be one of the newer 333 - HGW models because of distance)
ATL-AMS-ATL - end of 2019 May......shows as a 333
The above 4 routes have been running with D1 seating - to be returned to non D1 type aircraft. mmmmmm. Will the above be used as some of the first A330-900neos routes (which will have the D1 seating) so customers that would expect to have D1 will not be disappointed? I'm not the expert here, just courious on what DL's thoughts are on their future decisions.
Dec 28, 2018, 2:31 pm
#387
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: PHX Sky Harbor
Posts: 379
Ooops, guess that shows my ignorance - the last 333 I was on was when all of DL's were inherited from NWA and probably my last experience was 2006 (well over 10 years ago). Thanks for the information.
Dec 28, 2018, 6:04 pm
#388
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SJC/YUL
Programs: DL PM, Marriott Gold
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LAX-SYD still shows as 777-200 ER metal, I will figure that all 777-200ERs will be converted by then (aka 777-7HD), but I'm not sure if enough converted LR's will be completed by then (2 needed plus 1 spare). It's been almost a year and only 1 LR has been modded...N706DN. I'm sure all will work out eventually. DL does not want to have to eat crow.
Dec 31, 2018, 6:09 am
#389
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: Delta, Marriott
Posts: 187
This isn't directly related to D1, but has anybody run across the Delta.com seat map not matching Seat Guru for 777 transpacific flights?
Delta.com shows row 40 as 2x3x0 and Seat Guru only has one configutation of 777 and row 40 is listed as 3x3x3.
The biggest difference, I think, is that the plane is using premium economy, not Comfort+ - but I really have no idea if this main cabin option is a good seat or one with limited recline.
Is there a thread for Seat Guru?
Delta.com shows row 40 as 2x3x0 and Seat Guru only has one configutation of 777 and row 40 is listed as 3x3x3.
The biggest difference, I think, is that the plane is using premium economy, not Comfort+ - but I really have no idea if this main cabin option is a good seat or one with limited recline.
Is there a thread for Seat Guru?
Dec 31, 2018, 7:06 am
#390
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Friends don't let friends use SeatGuru. There are lots of carriers/configs where it's just not current. Delta's 7HD config - a refurbed 777-200ER with Premium Select but no Comfort+ - as described in the Wiki is one such animal.