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Old Sep 17, 2018, 11:55 am
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Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y. For all the ERs and the first LR, post-mods config was initially 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB). The post-mods config for all ERs and LRs is now 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).

Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.

777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.

777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.

Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1949190-tailored-travel-delta-debut-first-aircraft-all-four-seat-experiences-marc.html
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Old Jan 30, 2019, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by hsnu84053
I have a similar trip as yours. I am now in C+ however when checking Delta app it shows my seat selection as awaiting for payment. And looking at the seat map of the flight, my seat is still open for selection. So I assume if someone buys up to C+ (or a plat / diamond) and select my seat, I will be bumped.
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Interesting! Definitely keep us posted on this one!
After reaching out to Delta on Twitter of all places, these are the responses I got that seem conflicting:

"When the aircraft was upgraded your seat inventory was changed as well. There is no charge for the seats assigned to you. If you wish to modify your seats to delta comfort plus than you would need to pay the difference. *HHW"

"Due to the upgrade in aircraft the seat selections will stay intact at no charge to you. *HHW"

Or am I missing something with that first part about seat inventory...

I'm leaning toward just going to my local Delta counter (like a 10min drive) and sorting it out there.
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 8:52 am
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7001, N860DA, is scheduled to exit mods at SIN early on 3rd Feb. I would assume that the last non-modded ER, 7008, N867DA, will replace it, as it doesn't currently show any revenue flights after arriving from CDG>ATL today.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n860da
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by badmotorist

My wife and I are slated for MSP-HND in March and our seats were originally MC but with the refit it's saying we're now in C+ (row 30-something).
Forgive my ignorance, but there is no more C+ on the 777 correct?
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by lucycan
Forgive my ignorance, but there is no more C+ on the 777 correct?
Comfort + is being added to the already modded six aircraft, with the first one, 7007, N866DA, currently at ATL being updated. I don't know if 7001, N860DA, scheduled to exit SIN on 3rd Feb., and the others to follow, will have it already installed, or whether they will join the other five, all of which should have Comfort + installed by/after 1st March.
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by badmotorist
After reaching out to Delta on Twitter of all places, these are the responses I got that seem conflicting:

"When the aircraft was upgraded your seat inventory was changed as well. There is no charge for the seats assigned to you. If you wish to modify your seats to delta comfort plus than you would need to pay the difference. *HHW"

"Due to the upgrade in aircraft the seat selections will stay intact at no charge to you. *HHW"

Or am I missing something with that first part about seat inventory...

I'm leaning toward just going to my local Delta counter (like a 10min drive) and sorting it out there.
They're saying you get to keep your seat for free cause you were there before the new swap and are therefore grandfathered. But if you want to change to any other C+ seat on the plane, or if you decide to change your travel date, etc, then you lose your grandfather status and will have to pay for C+ if you want it.
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by audidudi
Comfort + is being added to the already modded six aircraft, with the first one, 7007, N866DA, currently at ATL being updated. I don't know if 7001, N860DA, scheduled to exit SIN on 3rd Feb., and the others to follow, will have it already installed, or whether they will join the other five, all of which should have Comfort + installed by/after 1st March.
7007 is the first to get the mod, and all the others, including those currently getting suites (7001/7002) will get the C+ mod later...likely March. Fortunately, 7008 will go in for suite mods (no C+) before 7007 finishes C+, so there won't be three versions of configs in service.
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by audidudi
Comfort + is being added to the already modded six aircraft, with the first one, 7007, N866DA, currently at ATL being updated. I don't know if 7001, N860DA, scheduled to exit SIN on 3rd Feb., and the others to follow, will have it already installed, or whether they will join the other five, all of which should have Comfort + installed by/after 1st March.
Interesting. Wonder why they did not do this when they did the rest of the plane? Poorly selling PS seats are my guess.

I have MSP - HND on 2/14 and no C+ is available.
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by lucycan
Interesting. Wonder why they did not do this when they did the rest of the plane? Poorly selling PS seats are my guess.
They aren't removing or reducing PS. They are upgrading several economy rows to comfort+. DL has said that all new widebodies will have 4 seating types: Econ, C+, PS, D1
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 4:34 pm
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PS, and PS plus Comfort+ seat counts from the wiki:

Post-mods config is (temporarily) 28J/48W/220Y...and will become 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (all modded aircraft will be reconfigured by/after March 1st)
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
PS, and PS plus Comfort+ seat counts from the wiki:

Post-mods config is (temporarily) 28J/48W/220Y...and will become 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (all modded aircraft will be reconfigured by/after March 1st)
I know this isn't technically brand new news, but.. it's amazing that they are putting 90 C+ seats on this plane. This is truly Delta's new flagship, not the A350 (although we'll see what Delta does with those).
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by ethernal
I know this isn't technically brand new news, but.. it's amazing that they are putting 90 C+ seats on this plane. This is truly Delta's new flagship, not the A350 (although we'll see what Delta does with those).
When they removed a row, they had 32 inches to play with. Since each row of C+ has aprox 3 inches of extra pitch, that means 11 rows. Anything less would have been wasted space. I personally wouldn't chose a flagship based on its comfort+ offering tho
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 11:48 pm
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Originally Posted by ethernal
I know this isn't technically brand new news, but.. it's amazing that they are putting 90 C+ seats on this plane. This is truly Delta's new flagship, not the A350 (although we'll see what Delta does with those).
I haven’t flown the A350 yet, but from the planes I’ve flown I assume the 777 is tied for 4th in terms of “environmental” comfort — behind the A350, B787, and A330 — and I don’t think a large C+ seat count or even a 4-class confit can really make a 777 the flagship offering in light of those better baselines (in terms of pressurization, seat size, and other amenities). Presumably the 777X will match those factors, but until then...
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Old Feb 2, 2019, 2:39 pm
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N860DA is en route to HND: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N860DA
N867DA is scheduled to fly MSP-HND tomorrow (and presumably on to SIN): https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N867DA
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Old Feb 3, 2019, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
When they removed a row, they had 32 inches to play with. Since each row of C+ has aprox 3 inches of extra pitch, that means 11 rows. Anything less would have been wasted space. I personally wouldn't chose a flagship based on its comfort+ offering tho
As someone that has routinely faced sold-out C+ cabins on purchases as far out as 4 months I disagree. The C+ number is a huge boost and basically guarantees availability up until right before departure.

Originally Posted by gregsfortytwo
I haven’t flown the A350 yet, but from the planes I’ve flown I assume the 777 is tied for 4th in terms of “environmental” comfort — behind the A350, B787, and A330 — and I don’t think a large C+ seat count or even a 4-class confit can really make a 777 the flagship offering in light of those better baselines (in terms of pressurization, seat size, and other amenities). Presumably the 777X will match those factors, but until then...
This is murky and can't find reputable sources behind it, but as I understand it Delta declined the humidifier options on the A350 - the only extra humidity is due to the fact that the pressurization is slightly higher. 2K extra pressurization is nice, but without the humidification option you'll still end up with dry throat/nose on Delta's A350s. And I'd rather have 3" of extra legroom and .5" of extra seat width than 2K of extra pressure any day of the week.

I used to fly a lot of United 787s and personally never noticed a big difference compared to their 777s, but I know this is very much a "your mileage may vary" depending on altitude and humidity sensitivity.
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Old Feb 3, 2019, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by ethernal
As someone that has routinely faced sold-out C+ cabins on purchases as far out as 4 months I disagree. The C+ number is a huge boost and basically guarantees availability up until right before departure.
Yes. Obviously. Still it's a very long way from that to flagship
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