Sep 26, 2017, 1:09 pm
Last edit by: Renes Points
On 26SEPT17 Delta changed the MQD AMEX exempt requirements. $25,000 only exempts you to Platinum or lower. $250,000 spend needed across ALL the DL AMEX cards you hold (personal and business in your name) for Diamond exemption for 2019 elite year.
If all you are interested in is the discussion starting when the announcement occurred on Tuesday, September 26, 2017, start here.
The Delta announcement is here https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/skymiles/news-and-updates.html
There are many data points that Delta will allow a one time exception under the 2017 qualification rules if you request this for the 2019 Medallion year.
If all you are interested in is the discussion starting when the announcement occurred on Tuesday, September 26, 2017, start here.
The Delta announcement is here https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/skymiles/news-and-updates.html
There are many data points that Delta will allow a one time exception under the 2017 qualification rules if you request this for the 2019 Medallion year.
Delta increasing Diamond MQD Waiver to $250,000
Mar 8, 2018, 7:57 am
#1576
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I don't think the metal plat gives mqms. I use it to get 5x points I can transfer to virtually any airline. And yes I know the reserve is not that big of a deal but it does give you 30mqms year if your spending the money anyway. All I am saying is that making the DM spend waiver 250k and the MQD for DM to 15k is a very smart thing for delta to do b/c it forces folks to get the mqms and mqds if they want DM. Why, b/c there are way too many DMs that got their status spending only 25k on the reserve card. However, in 2019 the number of DMs should go way down and thus DMs will get upgraded much easier.
To the question of how does booking early or having the reserve card help with upgrades? Read how delta ranks upgrade priority and then watch your fare class closely. It's really not that hard to get to DM.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-upgrades.html
To the question of how does booking early or having the reserve card help with upgrades? Read how delta ranks upgrade priority and then watch your fare class closely. It's really not that hard to get to DM.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-upgrades.html
Mar 8, 2018, 7:59 am
#1577
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I noticed the poster only has six posts and looks like it's only in this thread
Also noticed he has a problem typing so wonder if it's someone that had too much booze at the skyclub and is deciding to have some fun.
Or maybe Lizbeth is back That writing style is like hers
Also noticed he has a problem typing so wonder if it's someone that had too much booze at the skyclub and is deciding to have some fun.Or maybe Lizbeth is back
That writing style is like hers
Mar 8, 2018, 8:11 am
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I got on the thread b/c I was researching something and this thread popped up and I found it interesting that others don't find these changes for DM to be positive. Wouldn't you rather be a DM with 50% less DMs next year? I do. Same thing with limiting skyclub access next year. Wouldn't all you business travelers like to see a 50% reduction in skyclub attendance?
As for the fare class to choose, that's the tricky part and I've played with many different iterations of what fare class works the best. And frankly, it seems to be almost segment specific and I have tried to locate just how they calculate the upgrades on deltas website but to no avail. As well, the agents play as though they know nothing as well. A few weeks ago I was going DEN-DTW (extremely hard to get upgrades) with 40 people behind my wife and I trying to upgrade and we got it right away. I'll go back and look at that fare code and let you know. But as I mentioned, it seems to change by the lane segment.
As for typing....I was on a phone with big fingers so sorry for the typos.
As for the fare class to choose, that's the tricky part and I've played with many different iterations of what fare class works the best. And frankly, it seems to be almost segment specific and I have tried to locate just how they calculate the upgrades on deltas website but to no avail. As well, the agents play as though they know nothing as well. A few weeks ago I was going DEN-DTW (extremely hard to get upgrades) with 40 people behind my wife and I trying to upgrade and we got it right away. I'll go back and look at that fare code and let you know. But as I mentioned, it seems to change by the lane segment.
As for typing....I was on a phone with big fingers so sorry for the typos.
Mar 8, 2018, 8:39 am
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My business partner is even more pathetic. Neither of us are very good at maximizing our travel value.
Mar 8, 2018, 8:57 am
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I got on the thread b/c I was researching something and this thread popped up and I found it interesting that others don't find these changes for DM to be positive. Wouldn't you rather be a DM with 50% less DMs next year? I do. Same thing with limiting skyclub access next year. Wouldn't all you business travelers like to see a 50% reduction in skyclub attendance?
As for the fare class to choose, that's the tricky part and I've played with many different iterations of what fare class works the best. And frankly, it seems to be almost segment specific and I have tried to locate just how they calculate the upgrades on deltas website but to no avail. As well, the agents play as though they know nothing as well. A few weeks ago I was going DEN-DTW (extremely hard to get upgrades) with 40 people behind my wife and I trying to upgrade and we got it right away. I'll go back and look at that fare code and let you know. But as I mentioned, it seems to change by the lane segment.
As for typing....I was on a phone with big fingers so sorry for the typos.
As for the fare class to choose, that's the tricky part and I've played with many different iterations of what fare class works the best. And frankly, it seems to be almost segment specific and I have tried to locate just how they calculate the upgrades on deltas website but to no avail. As well, the agents play as though they know nothing as well. A few weeks ago I was going DEN-DTW (extremely hard to get upgrades) with 40 people behind my wife and I trying to upgrade and we got it right away. I'll go back and look at that fare code and let you know. But as I mentioned, it seems to change by the lane segment.
As for typing....I was on a phone with big fingers so sorry for the typos.
Please do let us know about those fare classes for that trip as well as perhaps a few of your upcoming ones that were booked 10 months ago. I'm truly curious to know what you're paying up to when you book that far out that would trump other, late-booking DMs on a route in and out of a hub like DTW.
Mar 8, 2018, 9:15 am
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Honestly, because I’m lazy. I memorize one card and use it for everything. I’m content with getting the pittance of Pesos they vomit forth upon me. I usually get >200K MQMs already the old fashioned way, so it’s not a priority.
My business partner is even more pathetic. Neither of us are very good at maximizing our travel value.
Mar 8, 2018, 9:28 am
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You said you fly every week and get upgraded every time. What was your example last week or the week before? What about this week?
Please do let us know about those fare classes for that trip as well as perhaps a few of your upcoming ones that were booked 10 months ago. I'm truly curious to know what you're paying up to when you book that far out that would trump other, late-booking DMs on a route in and out of a hub like DTW.
Please do let us know about those fare classes for that trip as well as perhaps a few of your upcoming ones that were booked 10 months ago. I'm truly curious to know what you're paying up to when you book that far out that would trump other, late-booking DMs on a route in and out of a hub like DTW.
As far as the skyclub goes, I don't see the changes having any bearing on the overcrowding. Most diamonds already have an Am Ex that gets them in anyway and if someone choses the diamond choice to bring in guests it will only get worse. If someone is flying enough to be diamond and doesn't have another means to enter the skyclub and are hub based they are going to chose the skyclub membership.
Mar 8, 2018, 9:55 am
#1583
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Delta changed the SC access starting in 1/19 making it more difficult to get in as you know, so this should reduce the numbers. If only they would do what amex did in nov with the centurion lounges. To answer your question, last week was to DFW on a full fare 1st, tomorrow will be to DEN on an SU fare, so I will let you know tomorrow how that goes b/c in general this is a route that has a lot of business DM going home on Friday. Sunday will also be an SU fare so I let you know as well.
I have been trying to figure deltas fare class game and how the system upgrades based on fare codes. And yes, I know it's last in the list for priority but it does matter and no one at delta seems to know how exactly....or they just wont say.
I have been trying to figure deltas fare class game and how the system upgrades based on fare codes. And yes, I know it's last in the list for priority but it does matter and no one at delta seems to know how exactly....or they just wont say.
Mar 8, 2018, 9:58 am
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you figured out how to beat the system, but nobody else knows how it works.
OK, story checks out
Mar 8, 2018, 10:00 am
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Delta changed the SC access starting in 1/19 making it more difficult to get in as you know, so this should reduce the numbers. If only they would do what amex did in nov with the centurion lounges. To answer your question, last week was to DFW on a full fare 1st, tomorrow will be to DEN on an SU fare, so I will let you know tomorrow how that goes b/c in general this is a route that has a lot of business DM going home on Friday. Sunday will also be an SU fare so I let you know as well.
I have been trying to figure deltas fare class game and how the system upgrades based on fare codes. And yes, I know it's last in the list for priority but it does matter and no one at delta seems to know how exactly....or they just wont say.
I have been trying to figure deltas fare class game and how the system upgrades based on fare codes. And yes, I know it's last in the list for priority but it does matter and no one at delta seems to know how exactly....or they just wont say.
Mar 8, 2018, 10:14 am
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Mar 8, 2018, 10:15 am
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Mar 8, 2018, 11:09 am
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Mar 8, 2018, 11:16 am
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LOL ^^